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7-01-2011 @ 11:22PM
Some Definitions for us all:Cheat: Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.Exploit: To take advantage of (a person, situation, etc), esp unethically or unjustly for one's own ends.So I don't think people are quite understanding the point I was making. In my opinion Stars did nothing that Blizzard did not facilitate. Stars paid Blizzard to switch factions with REAL money for a service that Blizzard provides every single player. I feel like Blizzard being the corporation that they are should have seen this sort of thing coming a mile away. It was bound to happen eventually, because with every system or service there are imperfections. They did not hack, they did not 'cheat' their way into the new content. As far as I know as of right now Stars is not being penalized for what they did, and this could change in the future. I don't see it as an exploit, I see it as them being competitive and if this is considered an exploit.. anyone who has changed factions and then done a raid they were already saved to has been a part of this 'exploit'. I have a hard time believing that anyone responding to this is a member of Stars and if so my hat is off to you. I don't think that they would do something that they thought would get them banned. They are in the competitive raiding world, why would they do something that would take them out of the game? I think they wanted to be first, and they found a legal way to do it. Faulting them for that is unjust. Power to Stars and whoever decided to lead the faction change. It was smart. My question to Blizzard would be, Why was the heroic content even available in the first week? In my opinion, if you don't want people to do the heroic content in the first week, don't make it available. Stars was not dishonest about what they were doing, I highly doubt that Blizzard didn't see what was happening, and using a legal service that Blizzard has made available to everyone is not an exploit. This is not the same as what happened on the Lich King, it is not a bug, it was a service that yes, may not have been used in the same way most people would have used it, so what.Congrats to Stars for getting there first, I am sure it was an exciting experience for all of them. Haters Gonna Hate
7-02-2011 @ 2:06AM
While you're quoting the dictionary, you might try looking up Dullard too. Let me break this down for you. Just because something isn't against the rules doesn't mean it's an ethical thing to do- i.e. it's still unethical (check your second definition). In this case, transferring gave this guild an unethical advantage over every guild that was not taking advantage of a loophole in the game's code (second definition again), and they were most certainly using this to their own ends (lulz second definition).One could argue that they did all of their transfers knowing that it would give them an unfair advantage (check your first definition), but since they did not violate any rules currently in the EULA/TOS to my knowledge, they technically did not cheat. By your own definition, however, they absolutely exploited the game's mechanics, and based on the actions Blizzard has taken, they agree. Now seriously, go look up dullard.
7-02-2011 @ 3:04AM
"My question to Blizzard would be, Why was the heroic content even available in the first week? In my opinion, if you don't want people to do the heroic content in the first week, don't make it available."It's never NOT had to be available before. To my knowledge, prior to this tier and the advent of the Dungeon Journal, no players had come to the live realms having fully cleared the PTR content to the point of farming it. The ease at which Stars and the other top guilds blew through this content after it dropped is unprecedented, therefore it's not surprising Blizzard hadn't considered deactivating the heroic modes for the first week.
7-02-2011 @ 8:49AM
Sorry, Bikhai, but what has high end raiding and instancing got to do with morals? Nowt, so far as I can see. Stars did something that a lot of other raid guilds of their ilk would have done if they had enough guts. That they gamed the system isn't their fault, it is Blizzards for not bolting the stable door shut and welding the cracks before they decided to try it.Calling someone a dullard because they express an opinion you do not happen to agree with is frankly wrong. Shades of pot and kettle methinks.
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