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7-14-2011 @ 8:55PM
You know what the number one factor that plays into skill? Experience. It's this age of a billion f'in alts that has ruined the player base as a whole. Not to sound like an elitist prick, but I've been playing the same character and spec since UBRS in Vanilla. That's more than 6 years with the same character. And guess what, I am damn good at it.And yes, the game is about skill. There is a reason why at the start of the expansion the top end players are able to clear content within a matter of weeks, if not days. It's skill. Yes, a few of them are OCD with leveling, but when they get into dungeons they know what they are doing.It's Joe the Huntard/Death Knight/Druid that will never be that good at the game. If you have more than one alt at level 85, chances are you are probably not very good at the game as a whole. Now, there are always exceptions to this, but it is rather prevalent.Stick to one character, build it up, and become good. Through thick and thin, stick with it. Being able to stay on top of your class despite constant changes will make you a better player. Constantly switching only makes you a jack of all trades but a master of none.
7-14-2011 @ 9:56PM
I agree that sticking with one character for 6 years would make you really really good at that one thing. But I like variety and just playing the same character over and over gets pretty boring. I may not be a master of one class but I have the advantage of knowing how all classes work in the game. I definately don't know everything but I still consider myself very good at this game. Don't need to be the best at 1 class to be considered good. I'd rather be a jack of all trades anyways. :)
7-14-2011 @ 10:07PM
I would argue the opposite-- I have tried every class (some only to level 25 or so, enough to get an idea of the flavor and decide I didn't care for it) and I like several classes enough that I plan to take them to 85 in time. The experience has made me a better player overall, because I picked up a better general understanding of how the overall game works and a sense of perspective. I'd be a much worse DPS if I hadn't tanked and healed first-- among other things, I seem to have a much better sense of utility than most DPSers in pugs; I'll pop out of shadow form to heal if the healer's down when DPSing on my priest, or use Army properly to take threat and soak damage if the tank (or healer, if tanking) dies and I have no brez available on my DK. I'd be a worse tank if I hadn't been a healer first; I'm very aware of LoS and mana, and I won't pull if I have any doubt about the healer needing to drink. And tanking and DPSing helped my situational awareness while healing, among other things. A lot of things do carry over from class to class, and from role to role. My opinion is that the best way to get good at the game is to try out every role, even if it's only from 1-60 or even 1-40. It's enough to get a solid idea of how most classes play. Also, and using the term 'huntard' makes you look like a douchebag. There are bad players in every class. (Go ahead, ask me about the warrior in agi leather and a spellpower weapon I ran into in a heroic the other day.)
7-15-2011 @ 1:53AM
Agreed, Amanda. While I am particularly attached to my resto druid and invest far more time into her than any other character, I do have several other characters at or approaching level 85. Personally, the experience of being those other classes hasn't helped me much on my druid (I levelled as resto pre-LFD tool - which was really, really stupid but damn if I don't know the class/spec inside and out), but it has helped me on my other characters - my healer and tank awareness is well-honed from my healing experience, and I feel playing damage and tank classes give me an interesting and unique perspective on the raid. So, personally I think alt-leveling is extremely valuable. And, if you're in the same role as your main, I think you're actually in a really great place. I can pick up any other kind of healer class and learn the spells and talents, and do very well simply because I'm used to the healer mentality. Is it hard for me to switch from a healer to a damage dealer? Hell yes, but that's why I don't raid on my other-role alts, because I know my skill is inferior.
7-15-2011 @ 6:56AM
I absolutely agree with Amanda. I can always tell a DPS who also plays a tank or a healer simply because their awareness of those players' responsibilities is greater. The hunter who knows adds are coming and MDs them onto me or drops a frost trap. The mage who keeps an eye on his threat and uses Invis to reset it. The rogue who uses Recoup during an especially heavy-healing phase. The DK who knows his battle rez is not to be used any time any one dies on trash because he's played a resto druid back when battle rezzes were more precious. Etc etc.Tanks and healers overall seem to have a much greater awareness of the playing field than DPS do. I don't know why. I know on my tank I am always scanning the field for adds, pats, or just in case that warlock backs up a bit too far and buttpulls. And I still do the same thing on all my characters now, regardless of their role. It's just habit. I can't say most DPS would be doing the same. They don't have to, they shouldn't need to... but it's always instantly apparent when they do.Sure, really excellent players can learn these nuances without having ever played a tank or a healer, and really poor players can play every class in the game and still play poorly; but I feel my experience as other roles and classes has helped me immensely in my main role (tank). I feel like I'm a more well-rounded player than I would have otherwise been.
7-15-2011 @ 8:48AM
I play many alts, and all spec they can have I learn to play. Guess what? I kick ass on all of them. No its not me being big headed, but when I can jump on a alt in lower gear and out dps the mainspecs in almost every raid (guild or pug) i enter, I know I am good. I can also heal and tank on the alts with those talent trees.Yeah I could just play one character in one spec, but I'd be bored to tears doing it. A good player is a good player. We have a hunter in our guild who went to an alt for cata and has now switched back, his hunter is in crappy gear, but he rocks the dps charts due to pure skill. If you need someone who can pull top dps, whilst cc'in, whilst kiting several adds and doing about 7 other tasks at once, we know who to call on. Skill always > gear.
7-15-2011 @ 10:29AM
RE: picking one class and sticking to it.Be sure you didn't pick the wrong one. There are some hunters out there who'd do better to switch to mages. And mages who ought to be warriors. And warriors who ought to be druids, etc.If you're choice is between the fuller class/spec (the one with the higher theoretical dps) and between the class/spec you can play best (the one you can squeeze the most dps out from), pick the one you're able to squeeze better. I'm sure we've all known that crazy BM hunter who stays BM and still is awesome, because they suck at the other specs but rock BM. Considering that player skill, timing, and execution are so important, it's doubly important to play a spec who's rotation fits for you.To find out what's going to work for you... you'll probably have to play a fair number of classes to get a feel for how you do with them. I always had a rough go with rogues or DK, but I've got a nice touch with a Frost mage, pulling more out of them than I ought to have. For others, casters just don't go, and they'll tear up the place on a rogue.To truly know a class, know yourself first.
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