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7-17-2011 @ 7:18PM
You know it could be that the reason for Orgimmar's lack of Blood Elf and Forsaken districts might have nothing whatsoever to do with racial animosity. Goblins, Trolls and Tauren all have their major population centres very close to Orgimmar. It's reasonable to assume that, due to this proximity, they are all likely to have large numbers of citizens living and working in the Horde's capital city. The Forsaken and the Blood Elves, however, have the vast bulk of their population on another continent. It's reasonable to assume also that this distance prevents casual worker migration to Orgrimmar, leaving only adventurers and people with definite business in the city to represent their races. Neither of which would be a large enough population to warrant separate Forsaken or Sin'dorei districts.As for the Alliance saving the Sunwell. It was destroyed in the first place by an Alliance prince under orders from a man'ari Eredar. That it was rejuvenated by a draenei Eredar may not have any bearing on how they feel about the Alliance as a whole. The Horde took them in when the Alliance refused them, and they have powerful ties to Sylvanas' Forsaken. The Sunwell's Rebirth may only affect their view of the Draenei and the Light, not the Alliance itself.
7-17-2011 @ 7:43PM
I've always gotten the feeling that the Blood Elves as a whole could care less for the Horde or Alliance. They'd rather stand alone and independent, but when they couldn't, with their empire shattered by the Scourge, the lion's share of their people dead, and their most accomplished warriors and mages in Outland with Kael'thas, they had one option and that was the Horde. If they'd tried to remain alone, the Scourge would have destroyed them, and if they'd sided with the Alliance, the Forsaken would have crushed them.I imagine the Blood Elves have long memories. They remember when they were independent; they remember when they were Alliance too. They're Horde now, but in a decade? Two decades? Who knows, but when your life is measured in centuries, an alliance of convenience is far different.
7-17-2011 @ 7:51PM
When Arthas marched upon Silvermoon he did so under the banner of the Scourge and in the name of the Lich King. DO NOT blame the Alliance for the destruction of Silvermoon.
7-17-2011 @ 8:28PM
The blood elves have strong ties to the Alliance loyal high elves as well. Alliance members are likely walking in their streets. The Windrunner sisters excluding Sylvanas bear a strong animosity to the horde. The Orcs tried to commit the genocide of their people and the trolls have been their enemies for a long time.
7-17-2011 @ 10:03PM
Didn't the traitor lord of the blood elves quit the Alliance because of some racist Alliance commander who used them for cannon fodder? Anyone else wonder what happened to the fel blood elves that followed kael? More importantly, where do the wretched fit into this whole thing? Shouldn't there be a section about dealing with the sub species of the blood elves?
7-17-2011 @ 10:32PM
Plenty of Americans view the infidelities of a politician as evidence of his entire party's weakness, so blaming the Alliance for Arthas and the scourge is easy enough in-character. I mean, I remember an argument with a roleplayer who was deciding that all the druidic organizations were useless and ineffective because the game world was static and their "progress" never amounted to anything. I argued with him as a person- I don't think the static nature of gaming from vanilla meant that the organizations were supposed to be ineffective, but his character could believe whatever he wanted.Also, the Wretched are an old problem that isn't terribly relevant at the moment, despite being terrible. Since the tide of blood elves falling into Wretched probably stemmed, new people aren't being affected by it- just the same ones that lost loved ones long ago.
7-17-2011 @ 10:37PM
I think the blame the Alliance thing runs along the lines of 'Hey, remember that Alliance we had, where we sent you a bunch of guys to help fight off the orcs? Well, now our city is being overrun by zombies and we're being slaughtered and.. Yay, you're here! I mean, you're a little late but at least you came to help...oh. You want our help? We're in the army now? Instead of dealing with our ruined city, refugee problem and whole lack of a Sunwell thing? And you've put Commander Dickface in charge?no.We're not upset. Really."
7-18-2011 @ 12:32AM
I didn't really really view this as a slap in the face either. There are a bunch of Blood Elves right smack in the middle of Orgrimmar in Garrosh's own throne room.
7-18-2011 @ 12:51AM
Regarding the populations in Orgrimmar: the tauren were given a place of honor in Orgrimmar in the Valley of Wisdom as a small token of forgiveness for the death of Cairne, while the trolls were pushed towards the outskirts after the dispute between Vol'jin and Garrosh. The goblins are also on the outskirts, partially because they aren't entirely trusted.The Forsaken and the blood elves never had a major presence in Orgrimmar, largely because they are based in Lordaeron while the other four Horde races are based in Kalimdor. The only blood elves you really see in Orgrimmar is the delegation in Garrosh's throne room, in the Valley of Strength.I know that in the Shattering, it outright mentioned that most of the blood elves in the arena were cheering for Garrosh when he dueled Cairne.I personally feel like, philosphically, the blood elves and Garrosh *should* generally see eye to eye, moreso than they would with Thrall. The blood elves are reckless and put a great deal of emphasis on obtaining power and seeking revenge.
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