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7-23-2011 @ 4:18PM
"Blizzard needs to very quickly create and implement a set of non-tier DPS plate shoulders. Look at me -- I'm still wearing ZA shoulders..."Rossi, your almost contradicting yourself. I know your implying that you want non tier dps plate to drop in a raid, but that is the purpose of the ZA loot. Options to fill slots that are not tier, won't drop for you, or fill a slot that has few options in the first place.Just be thankful that you are wearing ZA shoulders: I'm tanking in FL with blue shoulders and a blue trinket (crab). When I get home from the Indy Race today, I go get to run ZA for the 75+ time and not have tankin shoulders drop.
7-23-2011 @ 4:29PM
Hot damn, you got the *crab* to drop? Most of the time nobody ever does Gur'sha!
7-23-2011 @ 4:31PM
I got it in the second week of cata - that's the only reason >.
7-23-2011 @ 4:35PM
No, I'm not going to be thankful that they straight up didn't itemize a DPS shoulder option outside of tier. It's just one of the weird itemization issues of Firelands, like no spirit on cloth, or TWO non set tank shoulders. It's just silly and bad, it can't be defended. Is it the end of the world? No, but it's still silly and bad.
7-23-2011 @ 4:37PM
ZA shoulders are a dps option for getting into Firelands, although trying to farm Halfus is maybe a bit better. The problem is that there still should be a T12 level set of plate DPS shoulders. Getting tier may not be too much of a problem if you only raid in 10 man, but if you are in 25 man it's more competition.In T11 we had two options, in T12 only one, and we have to get a token that two other classes can use.
7-23-2011 @ 4:40PM
ZA/ZG is NOT meant to fill gaps in your FL gear. It was meant to be in the same patch as FL. It ended up filling the gaps of T11 and is a stepping stone before raiding. I suggest raiding T11 to get 359 shoulders until Staghelm stops being a jerk and drops your token.
7-23-2011 @ 5:06PM
I think I'm being misunderstood: I agree that it's stupid, but it could be worse. You could be in the sticky spot several other raiders like myself are in: shoulders from T11 not drop, and they are stuck farming a 5 man to be competitive. As for the no spirit on the cloth, I thought that was a conscious decision by Blizz to make priests realize that there is more to gearing than stacking spirit. Also, I thought that there was a set of shoulders that could be reforged into a decent set of shoulders, or had the random secondary set of stats on them? Unfortunately, I can't load wowhead very well on my iPhone, or else I would check. :(
7-23-2011 @ 5:34PM
Having things not drop and having to run ZA/ZG for lower-level alternatives ...OR Having things never drop (because they don't exist) and having to run ZA/ZG for lower-level alternatives.I dunno, I'd prefer the first one.
7-23-2011 @ 6:28PM
VSU Reaper, fyi, priests have always known that there's "more to gearing than stacking spirit". Exactly like every other healer class and spec, there has always been spirit AND other secondary stats on our gear. And just like every other healer class and spec (in the case of holy priests, slightly more than the others), priests discussed and theorycrafted about the relative merit of haste, mastery, and crit. Unlike every other healer spec though, priests get no drops in Firelands or rewards from Hyjal dailies. It is, as Matt says, not the end of the world but it IS silly and bad.
7-24-2011 @ 1:32PM
For DPS i'm using 359 tanking shoulders that dropped from a croc in TB. If I didn't get that lucky I have no idea what I'd be wearing.
7-25-2011 @ 7:19AM
Things could be worse, Reaper. According to Ask Mr Robot, the heroic versions of both the Porcelain Crab and Throngus' Finger are superior to most 359 -- and even 378 -- tanking trinkets.
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