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7-24-2011 @ 12:11PM
There's a difference between a retcon and an outlandish development."The orcs were actually tricked by demons into being evil" was a retcon."Kalimdor exists" was an outlandish development.If a new fact invalidates old information, it is a retcon. If it adds new stuff without interfering with anything else, no matter how outlandish, it doesn't qualify.
7-24-2011 @ 12:27PM
Outland was a pretty outlandish development! *ducks*
7-24-2011 @ 1:00PM
"Kalimdor exists" was an outlandish development.What do you mean by that? Didn't Kalimdor always exist before WoW?
7-24-2011 @ 2:14PM
Are you saying that another large landmass would not be a retcon? Because the Ulduar complex had maps of the planet with only three continents, so if they decided to add another one that would necessarily be a retcon.Lore follows gameplay, and that's fine, but as it stands we know how many continents there are. If Blizzard wanted to make new places on Azeroth for players to explore, they'd have to either incorporate the islands mentioned above or introduce a retcon plot device.
7-24-2011 @ 2:18PM
It was introduced in Warcraft III I think.
7-24-2011 @ 2:30PM
Yeah, Kalimdor was introduced in WC3 when Thrall led the orcs there under Medivhs advice.
7-24-2011 @ 4:20PM
@ AppleI think he meant to say that Uldum being there wasn't a retcon, not that a new landmass wouldn't be one.
7-24-2011 @ 5:41PM
You know how Columbus discovering America was a RL retcon. No wait.... it was always there but no one had been there to discover it. Maybe there could another undiscovered landmass on Azeroth? You know, maybe on that side of the world we've never been to? If Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor were the the east and west of Azeroth don't you think it would make sense for there to be a harbor on the east of Eastern Kingdoms instead of having to take a boat that requires you to go around Kalimdor? Brann is running out of places to explore....
7-24-2011 @ 7:09PM
That's really comparing apples and oranges here. The Americas existed prior to their discovery. Any new Azeroth continent doesn't exist until Blizz makes it (Northrend, Kalimdor).So I'd say a new continent would have to be a retcon of existing information. We have that pesky titan globe to deal with which shows no other land masses.
7-25-2011 @ 8:24AM
The maps in Ulduar not showing anything don't necessarily mean much for the existence of other continents; Blizzard could always say that the Titans constructed them such that they'd show only what the viewer already knew, or that they weren't meant to be complete and only show those areas that Ulduar was originally meant to be involved with, etc. (After all, it's already kind of an interesting question why the maps show what they do; the Titans created them before the sundering, so logically, they should just show one huge continent instead of three and the maelstrom, right?) Or Blizzard could just be honest and say they didn't want give away too much too soon, especially when future plans might change.In fact, I've always thought that the geography pretty much requires there to be more to Azeroth out there. You go from arctic climates in Northrend, south through temperate areas in the north of Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms, to tropical and equatorial areas down near Stranglethorn, Tanaris, Uldum, etc, and then what? If Azeroth is a globe, and the southern tips of Kalimdor and E.K. are meant to be near the south pole, they should be cold; having similar climates to Northrend.Then you've got the fact that no one seems to have been able to sail west from Kalimdor or East from E.K. and come out on the other side.Personally, I won't be surprised if it turns out that the three continents we know are only the northern half of one hemisphere of the world.
7-25-2011 @ 10:10AM
@ArrohonActually, Leif Ericson discovered North America about 500 years before Chistopher Columbus ever landed in the Bahamas. Ericson landed in areas that are thought to have been Baffin Island, Labrador, and Newfoundland. He lost credit for it because he COMPLETELY forgot to inform the Spanish Conquistadors. Tsk tsk. But yes - Christopher Columbus discovering the American landmass is a real life retcon.
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