Sorry, I meant that about War III. Warcraft III is when the story seemed to shift. It was also really disjointed. It was one story arc for the human and scourge chapters, and then one story for the orc/NE chapters. It basically means the humans got short changed on their hero. There is one central character per arc, except for those first two. It wasn't really a problem to me till WoW. The whole overall story frequently makes me go wtf now. It seems like Metzen was metaphorically writing LotR and killed off Aragorn in Act II with the killing of Lothar. He ripped off every other cheesy fall to the dark side with Arthas. And Uther is barely a footnote in that game. Medivh was redeemed and shuffled off scene. Don't even get me started on Me'dan. Varian seems like their attempt to make a great Alliance character, and they've pretty well botched that with the comics. (even if I actually like him) It's a crying shame. There is a lot of potential there, and it's totally wasted. I still keep hoping they'll go the route of the Númenóreans in LotR with Stromgarde and Arathi. Lothar was the MAN. Even Uther would have been a great champion. It's a shame they're gone. Same thing with Medivh. Spoilers! After the most recent book about Thrall where he shows up and the Last Guardian, I think he's awesome as well.