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8-02-2011 @ 2:30AM
jlhealy said...
Maybe I've been doing this entirely wrong, but I feel like I get a ton of healing out of atonement - 20-30k for a holy fire, 15-28k for a smite, depending on buffs and crits, plus with archangel each smite increases the damage (and subsequent healing) the next one does AND it is based on the damage you do, so I've seen numbers around 40k per smite during a perfect storm of CDs proccing and in excess of 80k for fights like Halfus. I am not heavily stacked in stats for smite, either, as I tank heal often, so I have a pretty conservative 3-way split in secondary stats.
Smite is half a second faster than heal and does 2-3 times the amount of healing, with almost no mana cost especially with archangel factored in, so I must be missing something here, as it seems rather profitable - yet people are saying that it is very low HPS?
I have only ever healed disc as atonement (I started as holy in September and tried out disc starting around January), so I am in the dark when people refer to the "real" disc rotation. What spells are those? I see a lot of allusions to a non-smite spec on this site, but I haven't seen it explicitly explained. :/
Thanks in advance for the feedback :)
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8-02-2011 @ 8:43AM
Cigan said...
You mention Halfus, a uniquely Atonement positive fight. Other uniquely Atonement positive fights include Magmaw (if you do the 1 person kiting the worms approach), and the T11 BH boss, who's name eludes me right now. That and Atonement is kind of 5 mans, but who cares about 5 mans.
In fights other than that if you're raid healing then you're just working towards the archangel buff because your raid isn't staying in range of the boss. On fights like Nef you have the larger problem that the tank might not even be in range of the boss because that 15 yards is measured from the middle of the boss, not the edge of his hit box (I REALLY wish they would change that, it would in no way break the game). Atonement is actually in my opinion the superior spec for raid healing, because of Archangel, but you're not using it for the atonement, just the buffs.
The Other Spec, which you should be using if you're tank healing to be honest is the Strength of Soul spec. Where instead of all the Atonement stuff you take some other Raw Throughput, and take Strength of Soul. You're spamming heals on the tank, so their weakened soul dbuff goes away much faster and you keep PW:S on them as often as you can. It's a mana intensive approach, but you're tank healing so PoH is not part of your mana misery, it kind of balances out, and you do get more of your potential maximum rapture procs. So yeah, that's your other option.
8-02-2011 @ 1:49PM
BB Crisp said...
@Cigan
I wanted the hit-box thing changed too, but it would break certain fights. Namely, Al'Akir and Ragnaros. If it worked how we wanted, you could HF/smite the boss and smart-heal anybody within 15 yards of him from any side. I could be on the far right of Ragnaros and heal the tanks on the far left just by Dpsing. I tried it on Al'Akir once and was disappointed that nobody was getting healed, but I realized how ridiculous this would end up being.
8-03-2011 @ 9:34AM
Aurilia said...
@Cigan A lot of T11 is Atonement-friendly in certain circumstances.
Halfus after he gets stacks from killing drakes
Valiona and Theralion when the priest gets Engulfing Magic (100% extra damage, 100% extra healing. Effects stack for Atonement)
Magmaw when he's impaled
Omnotron while standing in a power generator
Maloriak during the first few seconds of the Green vial.
I'm sure there's more, but that's just the fights I know off-hand.
T12 doesn't appear to be as friendly for the spec, however, beyond keeping HF on CD.