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8-03-2011 @ 7:34PM
So, since all of this has come from the hands (mind) of a powerful being out of our reach currently... and since we heroes (each of us) both on Horde and Alliance recognize the threat that happened; Why are are still fighting? Why aren't we coming up with some crazy idea to pull Sargeras through the nether to us and muff him up?Am I looking at this with too much knowledge outside of the story? I guess I should be asking other questions first. Are there others who are aware of the intentions originally set by Medivh (Sargeras) or not? Our intentions through factions are placed on war provided by that one event. With awareness of what had happened can change the outcome in the future, I guess with the exception of the undead since their basis for everything is to see everyone dead. Any more insight to this? Anyone else care??
8-03-2011 @ 8:30PM
Well we learned from the Elemental Bonds quest chain that Thrall wants peace between the Horde and Alliance. Unfortunately though, Garrosh is now the warchief and I think peace is the last thing on his To-do list.
8-03-2011 @ 8:56PM
Ephu, its going to take one HELL of an apology if Thrall ever wants peace with the Alliance again.Especially considering the whole 'Destroy Gilneas for no reason lol' thing.
8-03-2011 @ 9:26PM
@ThromActually the conquest of Gilneas has a strong reason behind it, it's a powerful strategic point in a mostly Horde-dominated region (Northern Eastern Kingdoms), granted the races that dominate the region (Forsaken and Sin'Dorei) are hardly trustworthy by Horde standards, the Gilnean Peninsula, however, would provide the Horde with a strong Port location to proceed with the naval bombardment and deployment of troops throughout the Western Border of the Southern Eastern Kingdoms, thus allowing for rapid naval and land warfare without the need of lengthy air or sea transportation from Kalimdor.Simply put, the Conquest of Gilneas gives the Horde a stern hold over an entire half of the Eastern Kingdoms and the ability to strike the entire southern half by Land, Sea and Air with no drawbacks, it's the perfect assault plan - And not necessarily Thrall's idea, it definitely came from the higher ups in the Horde's military division (Kor'kon or even Warsong Clan) but we have no idea if Thrall came up with the plan.
8-03-2011 @ 10:06PM
I think that, since Sargeras isn't actively attacking Azeroth, it's hard to get the Horde and Alliance to put their differences aside and focus on defeating him. We know that it's possible - it happened when Arthas attacked, it happened at AQ - but when there's no clear and present threat, both sides tend toward fighting each other.
8-03-2011 @ 11:03PM
@arawnMeh. As far as I see it, Gilneas was an innocent and independent nation.Case in point: Garrosh is a douchebag.
8-04-2011 @ 12:33AM
@ThromYou're barking up the wrong tree pal. Playing through the Worgen starting area, from what i could tell, invading gilneas was all Sylvanas's idea. True, the orcs had no trouble aiding in the assault, but that was under Garrosh's rule, not Thrall's. As a side note, i think Thrall's pretty much done apologizing. If you've played the Elemental Bonds questline in Hyjal (especially the fire part) then you know what im talking about. Besides, Thrall's tried to make peace with Varian numerous times, nearly all of which were thwarted by Garrosh. Garrosh...everything seems to go back to Garrosh...
8-04-2011 @ 3:08AM
@paul.morales91From the Horde quests, Garrosh is the one who commands Sylvanas to take Gilneas's control.Now, I find it funny people talking like Garrosh and the Horde are the only thing that prevents the peace between the two factions.
8-04-2011 @ 11:39AM
I always imagined the horde an alliance, humans and orcs more specifically, as the Soviet Union and the United States. Both of them worked together to defeat the greater threat, Nazi Germany. But as soon as that conflict was over tensions between the two rose greatly simply because every single ideal each nation held was the total opposite of the others. There was no way there was ever going to be peace between the two until one of them was gone. Which is just how the humans and orcs are.If you think about it from the humans perspective a bunch of aliens just came in and killed your entire family, then you finally get done grieving and all of the sudden here are the aliens again and they just killed everyone you've ever known. Finally through much grief counseling you start a new family and are on heavy meds to keep you from having horrific nightmares of your friends heads on pikes when out of nowhere zombies come and eat your unborn child right out of your wife. Now those zombies and those aliens are playing on the same team? How could you ever put aside a hatred that intense to look at the world from their point of view when the two people that just murdered everyone you've ever know now appear to be friends and also trying to kill you for the fourth time? Maybe some people can put aside the past to work towards the future, but I know the vast majority of the population will just want blood for the innocent blood that has been spilled; regardless of whatever kind of backstory those aliens and zombies have.
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