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8-04-2011 @ 9:24AM
Horrible new addon this Didit, if it isn't already bad enough for all the snobs to check iLevel and leave/kick if they don't like the number, now they will kick you if you have not done a run often enough according to their little elite attitude.
8-04-2011 @ 9:38AM
Conversely it might help people know when they need to explain fights. Although, unfortunately, I think your version will be the more prevalent. :(
8-04-2011 @ 9:44AM
Personally, as a healer, I think it's nice to know of the group has experience with a boss. Sometimes people are too shy or embarrassed to say anything when I ask if they are familiar with a boss fight. Only after a wipe will they sometimes admit they had no idea. This add-on saves the guesswork and I can just check and determine if I need to provide guidance to the group or not.
8-04-2011 @ 9:55AM
I can understand why someone would want that add on, but a ton of alts are going to be crying out "BUT MY MAIN HAS DONE IT 100000000000 times!"
8-04-2011 @ 10:02AM
Well, the data that Didit uses is already there for anyone to look up. The addon just presents it in a more convenient form. So getting mad at Didit is just shooting the messenger. Blizzard could have made it impossible for you to look up other player's kills, but they choose to provide you with that info. So it's ultimately Blizzard's fault if it's a bad thing to know other player's boss kills.However, I do think that it is in bad taste to broadcast this info in party chat every time you start a dungeon (as the addon author suggested). Use it for your own information, sure, but broadcasting it seems like you'd get some negative responses.
8-04-2011 @ 10:07AM
As with all addons of that type, it can be used both for good and for evil. And those that would use it for evil would find another way to do evil (flame others) anyway.
8-04-2011 @ 10:19AM
stop being bad.No seriously. You dont get kicked from a pug for having bad gear or for not knowing fights. You get kicked from pugs for being bad. You dont get kicked from venoxis for getting hit with something avoidable. You get kicked from venoxis by dying to something after standing in it for 8 seconds. Same holds for every other encounter. It has nothing to do with not knowing the fight. It has everything to do with not being capable of learning on the fly. None of the fights in heroics are so hard that you cant learn it on the fly. JUST PAY ATTENTION.You dont get kicked for having poor gear. Everyone knows the only way to gear up for raids is by running heroics. Everyone is ok with that. You do get kicked for doing dps significantly below what your gear is capable of. Or wearing stupid gear that makes it painfully obvious you dont have a clue how your class is supposed to function. And heres the most important part. You dont get kicked from pugs for being honest. If you admit that you don't know what to do and need an explanation, people will give you one. even if its just a single sentence "kill kitties before boss". However, you WILL get kicked if you pretend to know the fight, and then do everything wrong.
8-04-2011 @ 10:20AM
I can see it being a problem in the hands of elitists, but it can also be a great tool for those who honestly don't mind explaining. People are so afraid to say they're new to a dungeon that they'll often just wing it and hope for the best. I've had countless wipes on the last boss of ZG just because someone didn't speak up and ask questions.With didit, I'll know if I should give a quick run down before I pull the boss.
8-04-2011 @ 10:49AM
I agree w/the OP. It also doesn't tell you that a person's current toon has never downed this boss, but his 8 others have done it 57 times each.
8-04-2011 @ 12:00PM
I agree with Gewalt on all points. I have mainly been focused on PvP lately, but when I do run a dungeon, I simply say to the group: "fair warning: I have very little experience in this dungeon. I will avoid the fire, but please let me know if there are certain spells I should interrupt or something."I have never been kicked from a group, because I use DBM, GTFO, and I know my class well enough to adjust on the fly. Just like Gewalt was saying, be honest with your fellow players about your situation, and you will often be surprised at how patient and understanding they can be.
8-04-2011 @ 12:08PM
I think I'll use it as it gives me information. I use inspector just to get a quick glance at the Avg ILv of my party, so I know at what pace to pull, how much CC, etc...With this, I'll still ask "everyone know the fight" but I'll be more attentive to people who have less experience and give them tips, or when a group says they know the fight, but stand in the fire/ignore mechanics and die, I know that it was/wasn't a fluke and react accordingly. I doubt that I'll ever use the report feature.
8-04-2011 @ 3:26PM
@gewalt and Khirsah - if your statements/experiences were typical, the WoW world would be a better place 100-fold. Just the other night, we had a tank leave the group before we'd even pulled because my guildmate in the group was in mostly pvp gear. Didn't kick him, granted, but there were 3 of us from the guild there, so maybe he realized that wouldn't pass. Didn't give the guy a chance, didn't wait to see how it would go, just left. (We know his reason because one of his own guildmates chose to stay behind and told us.) So yes. People do get kicked (or lose out on runs) because they have bad gear or don't appear to potentially know the fights.
8-04-2011 @ 6:33PM
@Talia...Sorry to hear about your experience with that d-bag tank. But I still think he represents the exception more than the rule.To paraphrase another poster: A-holes are going to find ways to be a-holes. Does the addon in question give the a-holes another tool? Sure. Just like gearscore and recount were weapons in the a-hole arsenal. But in responsible hands, those tools can be used to help our fellow players, and ourselves, have a more enjoyable experience.I'm especially surprised that it was the tank that had the attitude. Most tank, at least the good ones, take great pride in their ability to have a successful run with any group. They pride themselves on being the teachers and caretakers of the group, to a certain extent. I play a rogue and am not ashamed to vanish and hide while my party dies if things are going badly. Sure, I'll hang on as long as I can, and Evasion tank if there is a chance to get the boss down in the next few seconds to avoid a wipe, but I don't see the sense in upping my repair bill when vanish is within such easy reach. It's one of the reasons I'd make such a lousy tank. I don't have the caretaker mentality, as all good tank must.I would chalk your experience up to a bad tank being bad, and an a-hole being an a-hole. Not much you can do about it. :)
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