Looking for Group Productions has been hard at work on its documentary Race to World First for a good long while now, capturing many top-tier World of Warcraft guilds' attempts at claiming coveted world firsts in the raiding game as well as following Blood Legion's race to a top spot. Set to release in a few weeks, Race to World First looks like it's going to be an introspective look at the time and energy that many of these guilds put into the raiding game, as well as an examination of the multicultural nature of the game and the general excitement that goes along with MMO accomplishments.
Each week, Race to World First looks at clips from players in guilds that have been fighting for or actually achieved world firsts. Looking back a bit, this clip with Narilka of Ensidia chronicles her time spent with the guild downing Kil'jaeden at the end of The Burning Crusade when she was still just 16 years old.
We loved having the Race to World First production team at the WoW Insider reader meetup at BlizzCon in 2010 -- they were some of the nicest guys and had a blast talking to real players and real fans. I am excited to see this documentary. Check out the trailer -- you might even see some familiar faces!
What does the majority of the community desire? Cataclysm is the easiest expansion to gear up in, it's the easiest expansion to level up in.. I really want to know.
While I found Burning Crusade to be tough to gear up in and find folks, Wrath was much easier to get gear in. That's why they made it tougher in Cata...
So yeah, leveling is super easy 1-80, but I think that might be bad in some ways too. The justice point system is easy enough, but badges weren't more complicated or anything. Shorter dungeons, less "miss one thing and wipe" followed by "tank calls everyone names and ragequits", made for a lot more completed dungeons.
Even now with the gear levels rising and speed runs returning to Heroics, it still takes longer and there's still a lot more people that just drop group, reason or no. At least in Wrath it was just "oh, great, Occulus" and then drop group. :)
Yeah, blizz designs content for people like paragon in mind. Stop thinking that the majority are bads. Not everyone wants faceroll content. You can already get to 370 ilvl without stepping foot in a raid or pvp. The problem with wow right now is that every whiner thinks they should be heard. And when they aren't, they cry.
He did say that, although he said he wanted it to be more serial, like a tv show, and involve every world class guild... vodka, stars, premo, ensidia, blood legion, all of them.
On your note, has wowinsider done any features on The Raid documentary? I thought it was very well done. The Raid might be a really good thing for people to watch before this one, especially for people who aren't into mmo's or haven't played a lot of wow.
-I love documentaries about things that don't matter and as such will probably watch this nearly half a dozen times if it's any good. -I hope they put a cap on how much nerdrage and mic-breaking cheering they allow in the final cut. -I think the fact that they captured the three days a year some of these people get outside on film will do wonders for the pace of the movie.
"-I think the fact that they captured the three days a year some of these people get outside on film will do wonders for the pace of the movie." Ummm this seems a little stereotypical ... My husband is the Guild leader for many Horde and server firsts on our realm yet he does take time everyday for our child, our marriage, & even goes to the gym (shocking!! ...>> sarcasm
Oh & I also particularly love the sounds of the screams & cheers for world/server firsts. Such raw emotion is so fun to hear and reminds me of when we did guild firsts after tons of grinding. Plz don't knock those who aim to be the best at what they do ... no matter what it is. Some the the best players are amazing imo
"-I love documentaries about things that don't matter and as such will probably watch this nearly half a dozen times if it's any good."
It'll be like Darkon, various films about Renaissance Faire folk, Civil War re-enactors and the King of Kong. And yeah, we cheered on our first heroic big boss kills too, so I'm not mocking the exultant cheers when that big bad guy finally goes down for the count.
tl;dr I can salute your dedication without giving the slightest damn about your goal.
I would really like to know what these absolute best of the best in the world........ Of Warcraft do with there lives, If they put so much effort into the game what is left with there personal life? Does it end up becoming there job and they get a paycheck, Alot of them look like the are over 30, do they have families? If all they do is play this game word first or not .... Damn. I have seen a post that they raid anywhere from 38-50 hours a week that's somebodies job, i personally work 54+ hours ( nature of the trade) a week and I'm only 25, I also like to spend time with my g/f since she works the average week. I would like to see how they juggle this extreme dedication to a video game to life, I really hope that these world firsts have a bit more going on this sooner or later the game will end and you won't have anything to show for it..
I've been there done that. At this point I am an ex wower. I haven't played in over 3 months. Its kinda addicting, and there were periods i would play over 50 hours a week, mostly doing raiding things. Yes, absolutely everything else suffers. I can not imagine how playing a game for 30-40, or 50 hours a week does not impact your social and professional life. I know when I was playing hard, i would work a typical shift, then go home and play all night, rinse and repeat. At this point i was separated from my wife due to my job. When we decided we could not take any more of it, i put the game down and have not looked backed.
Now I work close to 100 hours a week, but that is a different story! I guess I always have an addictive personality, i can't just watch tv or read books or something. I need to be involved in some massive project like gaming or programming or whatever. At least now I can channel all that energy into my career and get paid to boot. Going to clear 6 figures for first time in my life, I finally got a dream job I started two days ago, all because I stopped playing wow.
I will not pretend to speak for others, but for me I just woke up and said 'is this how my life is going to be?'. Do i want server first on my tombstone, or beloved father and husband? I want the later. (oh plus cataclysm completely sucks imo, that made it real easy to stop)
If you have some miraculous life where you are a hardcore raider and still have great career and social life. That's great. But all the people I interacted were like me, playing 30, 40, 50+ hours a week. That's pretty typical of hardcores IMO. It's hard to look at your self and say 'my life is being affected by this'. But, to me, it was. Not that i could not do my job. Not that I could not have a relationship with my wife. But all the other things, my friends, my family, any other pursuits. They all fell by the wayside. Now we can plan events whenever we want without worrying about raid nights.
I think in the end, you just end up wanting more out of life than virtual (but really good) friends. My wow friends are not going to break me out of jail, my real friends would.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
thepiratester Aug 9th 2011 7:12PM
This is why WoW is losing subs ^ ^
Too much was put on the low % of players ( elite raiders ), neglecting the desires of the majority community.
Jahka Aug 9th 2011 7:20PM
Ummm...Cata is probably the most accessible expansion this game has seen so far as far as new players and casuals are concerned.
patgamer Aug 9th 2011 8:17PM
What does the majority of the community desire? Cataclysm is the easiest expansion to gear up in, it's the easiest expansion to level up in.. I really want to know.
Grak Aug 10th 2011 5:34AM
"Ummm...Cata is probably the most accessible expansion this game has seen so far as far as new players and casuals are concerned."
That must be why the tier11 raids were pugged *so much* in the last 6 months, and heroic queues were almost instant.... oh wait
vocenoctum Aug 10th 2011 10:06AM
While I found Burning Crusade to be tough to gear up in and find folks, Wrath was much easier to get gear in. That's why they made it tougher in Cata...
So yeah, leveling is super easy 1-80, but I think that might be bad in some ways too. The justice point system is easy enough, but badges weren't more complicated or anything. Shorter dungeons, less "miss one thing and wipe" followed by "tank calls everyone names and ragequits", made for a lot more completed dungeons.
Even now with the gear levels rising and speed runs returning to Heroics, it still takes longer and there's still a lot more people that just drop group, reason or no. At least in Wrath it was just "oh, great, Occulus" and then drop group. :)
jfofla Aug 9th 2011 7:16PM
Wait...Adam doesn't look like Captain Picard?
Adam Holisky Aug 9th 2011 9:51PM
I think the real question is:
Does Adam ever watch or listen to himself in interviews? The answer is no.
vocenoctum Aug 10th 2011 10:07AM
Does Adam interview himself a lot? :)
Rakah Aug 10th 2011 1:30PM
Adam was way cooler at the blizzcon meetup
Rakah Aug 10th 2011 1:33PM
to clarifiy i mean on the stream.
grundle87 Aug 9th 2011 7:22PM
Yeah, blizz designs content for people like paragon in mind. Stop thinking that the majority are bads. Not everyone wants faceroll content. You can already get to 370 ilvl without stepping foot in a raid or pvp. The problem with wow right now is that every whiner thinks they should be heard. And when they aren't, they cry.
grundle87 Aug 9th 2011 7:24PM
On a different note, didn't the guy that did "The Raid" say that he wanted to take on a project on world firsts next? XD
Pyromelter Aug 10th 2011 6:57AM
He did say that, although he said he wanted it to be more serial, like a tv show, and involve every world class guild... vodka, stars, premo, ensidia, blood legion, all of them.
On your note, has wowinsider done any features on The Raid documentary? I thought it was very well done. The Raid might be a really good thing for people to watch before this one, especially for people who aren't into mmo's or haven't played a lot of wow.
i.heart.u.all Aug 9th 2011 8:14PM
that looks amazing hats off to the Looking for Group crew.
mem0ryburn Aug 9th 2011 7:55PM
Some comments upon viewing:
-I love documentaries about things that don't matter and as such will probably watch this nearly half a dozen times if it's any good.
-I hope they put a cap on how much nerdrage and mic-breaking cheering they allow in the final cut.
-I think the fact that they captured the three days a year some of these people get outside on film will do wonders for the pace of the movie.
chirpchirp Aug 9th 2011 11:27PM
"-I think the fact that they captured the three days a year some of these people get outside on film will do wonders for the pace of the movie."
Ummm this seems a little stereotypical ...
My husband is the Guild leader for many Horde and server firsts on our realm yet he does take time everyday for our child, our marriage, & even goes to the gym (shocking!! ...>> sarcasm
chirpchirp Aug 9th 2011 11:34PM
Oh & I also particularly love the sounds of the screams & cheers for world/server firsts. Such raw emotion is so fun to hear and reminds me of when we did guild firsts after tons of grinding.
Plz don't knock those who aim to be the best at what they do ... no matter what it is. Some the the best players are amazing imo
Angrycelt Aug 10th 2011 2:06PM
"-I love documentaries about things that don't matter and as such will probably watch this nearly half a dozen times if it's any good."
It'll be like Darkon, various films about Renaissance Faire folk, Civil War re-enactors and the King of Kong. And yeah, we cheered on our first heroic big boss kills too, so I'm not mocking the exultant cheers when that big bad guy finally goes down for the count.
tl;dr
I can salute your dedication without giving the slightest damn about your goal.
tau Aug 9th 2011 8:32PM
I would really like to know what these absolute best of the best in the world........ Of Warcraft do with there lives, If they put so much effort into the game what is left with there personal life? Does it end up becoming there job and they get a paycheck, Alot of them look like the are over 30, do they have families? If all they do is play this game word first or not .... Damn. I have seen a post that they raid anywhere from 38-50 hours a week that's somebodies job, i personally work 54+ hours ( nature of the trade) a week and I'm only 25, I also like to spend time with my g/f since she works the average week. I would like to see how they juggle this extreme dedication to a video game to life, I really hope that these world firsts have a bit more going on this sooner or later the game will end and you won't have anything to show for it..
Rob Aug 10th 2011 7:15AM
I've been there done that. At this point I am an ex wower. I haven't played in over 3 months. Its kinda addicting, and there were periods i would play over 50 hours a week, mostly doing raiding things. Yes, absolutely everything else suffers. I can not imagine how playing a game for 30-40, or 50 hours a week does not impact your social and professional life. I know when I was playing hard, i would work a typical shift, then go home and play all night, rinse and repeat. At this point i was separated from my wife due to my job. When we decided we could not take any more of it, i put the game down and have not looked backed.
Now I work close to 100 hours a week, but that is a different story! I guess I always have an addictive personality, i can't just watch tv or read books or something. I need to be involved in some massive project like gaming or programming or whatever. At least now I can channel all that energy into my career and get paid to boot. Going to clear 6 figures for first time in my life, I finally got a dream job I started two days ago, all because I stopped playing wow.
I will not pretend to speak for others, but for me I just woke up and said 'is this how my life is going to be?'. Do i want server first on my tombstone, or beloved father and husband? I want the later. (oh plus cataclysm completely sucks imo, that made it real easy to stop)
If you have some miraculous life where you are a hardcore raider and still have great career and social life. That's great. But all the people I interacted were like me, playing 30, 40, 50+ hours a week. That's pretty typical of hardcores IMO. It's hard to look at your self and say 'my life is being affected by this'. But, to me, it was. Not that i could not do my job. Not that I could not have a relationship with my wife. But all the other things, my friends, my family, any other pursuits. They all fell by the wayside. Now we can plan events whenever we want without worrying about raid nights.
I think in the end, you just end up wanting more out of life than virtual (but really good) friends. My wow friends are not going to break me out of jail, my real friends would.