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8-09-2011 @ 9:32AM
If it is an expansion, I just don't get how they'll fit the Pandaren into the game without relegating them to the role of "quest givers / rep faction". People are saying you'll be able to choose a faction at a certain level, but I have a memory of, either in a Q&A or a response to someone on the forums, a Blue saying something along the lines of:"A race that can choose a faction is a no-go. It won't happen. When designing character models, one of our priorities has and will be to make sure a player can easily identify an enemy or friend at a distance from their outline, or silhouette."Something like that, of course it might have been them just throwing us off the idea, but...
8-09-2011 @ 9:46AM
True, but they also said that about faction transfers, race changes, and transferring from PvE to PvP servers.Doesn't mean much, but Blizzard has never been shy about revising a design strategy because it doesn't fit any more, or because they have something really cool they want to do.
8-09-2011 @ 10:07AM
Chinese Law prohibits any images depicting harm or violence towards Pandas. Blizz wouldn't be able to release an expansion that featured Pandas as a playable race therefore and would lose millions.If the Pandaran are in the expansion they'll be NPC's.
8-09-2011 @ 10:16AM
He has a point though, and it has been something thats been bothering me with this whole rumor: if the pandarens become a nuetral, playable race (like some think it will be), then how will this effect PVP? If your in a WSG, and you see someone towering above the rest, its either a dranei or a tauren, if they are short, its a gnome or a goblin, medium sized, human, hunched over a little and its an orc... you get where I'm going with that. If they introduce them as a playable race, for both sides, then its just going to cause problems.The other option, assuming what I read was spot on (blizz introduces race, class, race,... class?), is that what if its a new class? Ok, well it has to be something unique like a healer, healer, DPS... wait thats been done. Healer, tank, DPS? Been there, done that. What if its a healer, tank, ranged dps, melee dps.... nope, dont want to make a druid 2.0 - one schizophrenic class is to much. I think (and I didnt come up with this, some other blog did - cant remember which) we are going to be getting our first support class, much like the vanilla shammy was.Need some help healing? Got it covered. Tank need some help with adds? Got it covered. DPS needs a boost? Got it covered. Obviously this wouldn't be all in one spec, but still... the possibilities are interesting, with the downside being you would never top any charts.The whole thing reeks of running out of ideas to me, and to be honest, I'm not crazy about having something that was an april fools joke become real, and the pivoting point for an entire expansion. I think this would be better suited content for 1 patch, or 2 if you really wanted to stretch it out. Kind of how TK + Sunwell could be tied together. You attack Kael, you think you kill him, and then you chase him to Sunwell to finish the job + w/e else needs to be taken care of there.
Chaos - That is such a huge misconception I don't know where to begin. People claim this law, but I've never ONCE seen it quoted / pointed to a valid citation where this "law" supposedly exists. Fanboy #340953405 does not qualify as a valid citation or source of reliable information. And besides. Ever seen the MMO Perfect World (don't it's pretty awful)One of the playable options for the "beast" race is a panda dude. A panda dude who's primary occupation is to hit things and tank for the most part.
8-09-2011 @ 10:17AM
Look for the http://www.wowhead.com/item=68806 at a vendor in Azshara. When a horde player can take the silhouette of a female night elf endlessly, I believe they're relenting on their "IDENTIFY FROM A DISTANCE" stance.It has a 30 minute effect, with a 15 minute cooldown. You can essentially become a night elf permanently. Death is the only thing that removes the guise.I rolled a goblin hunter and bought the locket. I ran it all the way to Darkshore to pick up a kitty for it. I never got to simply walk past people in WSG to get the flag. Red = Dead....even if you look like a friend.
8-09-2011 @ 10:23AM
@ Chaosdefined - where is that stated? I remember that there was a rumor about the panda violence thing, but I have never seen it stated with links to their laws. And besides, Blizz could always argue that they are not pandas in the sense of bamboo eating bears(?), but bipedal, anthropomorphic bears with white and black fur that like to drink beer and eat Asian cuisine.Honestly, after that fiasco of the theme park that opened in china that blatantly rips off Blizzard's intellectual property (wow, starcraft, diablo), who cares what the Chinese think? Does China even have Cata yet? Will they ever get it? I remember all the hoops that Blizz had to jump through just to get BC and Wrath in over there.
8-09-2011 @ 10:27AM
Now, now. The title says Pandaria, but it never says anything about actual Pandaren. We may just find their ruined cities and villages, and the story of the expansion is about uncovering why they have disappeared, where they have gone.
8-09-2011 @ 10:29AM
chaosdefined, there's no existing law that prohibits the use of images depicting pandas, even violent images. The Chinese MMO "Perfect World" even allows you to play as humanoid pandas.This rumor/myth does have some roots in fact. Some of the Chinese populace does tend to get a bit annoyed when they see a traditional symbol being used for cheap entertainment. In one case, a Chinese city deliberated over one proposed law that *would* ban such imagery (I don't believe it passed), which was spurred by a fashion designer that showcased sexual panda-themed clothing for women in Beijing.http://www.china.org.cn/english/environment/232989.htm
8-09-2011 @ 10:33AM
@Chaos: Kung Fu Panda made over 15 million dollars in the Chinese Box Office. Kung Fu Panda 2 is up to 20 million.There is no law regarding anthropomorphic pandas and cartoon violence.
8-09-2011 @ 10:37AM
@Chaoshttp://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jun/06/kung-fu-panda-2-chinaIt would seem China does in fact support this kind of entertainment.
Noselacri...hasn't Savory Deviate Delight pretty much always done that? Since Vanilla?
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