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8-12-2011 @ 11:03AM
A question for my fellow Mage friends:At what percentage of crit is it smart to move over to the second tier of hot streak. I've searched everywhere, but I can't find when it would be the optimal time to stop with the random Pyro's, and go with the double crit ones.Thanks =DSaukylly
8-12-2011 @ 11:30AM
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the talents. I hope you're not level 85 and considering this question.Tier 1 Hot Streak gives your crits a chance to give you a free instant Pyroblast. Tier 2 Hot Streak, IN ADDITION TO TIER 1, gives you a 100% chance at a free instant Pyroblast when you crit twice. You don't lose Tier 1 by putting talent points into Tier 2.
8-12-2011 @ 11:37AM
You have to have Hot Streak to have Improved Hot Streak, so you wouldn't LOSE the random procs.That said, why wouldn't you pick up Improved Hot Streak as part of your talent spec? Even if you don't have a great crit %, you could still get 2 in a row...Sidenote: My mage is only lvl 45 so I don't know all that much about mage specs... but Imp Hot Streak seems rather important to take in any fire mage build...
8-12-2011 @ 11:50AM
While we're on the topic, anyone else noticing Hot Streak double-procing? I have an addon that tracks how many I use in combat, and I'm constantly losing them here and there when it double-pops. I suppose it's the random chance overlaid with two crits, but it's a little annoying feeling like I "lost" one when it happens. And it's not the addon bugging, the client's own "Hot Streak!" animation and flames (sweet, beautiful flames) pop twice in quick succession.
8-12-2011 @ 12:22PM
"I hope you're not level 85 and considering this question." He's asking a legit question about his spec. Lay off the douche-aid. Many people, myself included play a totally different spec while leveling so yeah at 85 we still might have a question or 2 about our current or other 2 specs. Thanks.
8-12-2011 @ 2:22PM
As your crit percentage increases, you most certainly DO lose T3 Hot Streaks as you spec into T4 Hot Streaks. This is a hidden mechanic that is intended by Blizzard as a way to keep the number of instant cast Pyroblasts under control. It is at roughly 46% crit that T3 Hot Streak will no longer proc.To answer your question, it is generally accepted that a fire mage should always spec into both T3 and T4 Hot Streak. However, if you would like to estimate its value for yourself, take a look at this chart: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/378/t3vst4chancedetail.pngYou'll notice that your crit percentage must be extremely low (~8%) to see very little benefit from T4. But perhaps most importantly, what are you factoring in as your opportunity costs on those two talent points? What talent(s) would you gain?To provide a general answer to the general fire mage population: Always spec into both T3 and T4 Hot Streak.
8-12-2011 @ 3:35PM
For your consideration, Mugutu, here are two of the most common new Mage questions and their most common answers:Q: "I want a Mage, what spec's best for leveling?"A: "Frost all the way; it's the most mana-efficient spec, has a shield, a pet, and more slows and snares than you'd believe... you'll have SO much less down time to eating/drinking and corpse-running as Frost compared to any other spec!"andQ: "Hey I just hit 85 and I want to start raiding, what spec should I raid as?"A: "Dear God, ANYTHING but Frost! Frost is the PvP spec; it SUCKS for raids!!"As far as the disparity between good leveling specs and good raiding specs go, a remarkably similar argument could be made for BM Hunters and Subtlety Rogues, among others.I absolutely do not judge anyone for not knowing everything (or even hardly *any*thing!) about their raiding spec at max level, when they spent the first 85 levels as a spec that plays *completely* different. I would suggest you not be so quick to judge yourself.
8-12-2011 @ 3:58PM
Just to get this on record...Frost is one of the best PvE specs in the game. I'd take a good frost mage before most other classes/specs, and yes, that's in PvE content.So why is frost not considered viable? A number of reasons. It's largely been considered a PvP-only spec for several years. It typically doesn't show up on WoL parses or DPS comparison sites. You pretty much never see a decent frost mage in your pug. And while it's one of the best DPS specs in the game, it's inferior to arcane.Frost is in a great place right now, and if arcane gets even slightly nerfed, frost will be the "go to" spec. Tell your friends.
8-12-2011 @ 5:15PM
@ SwiftIMO, and please read IMO, I had no issue (and still don't) soloing as Arcane even in bgs is fun HOWEVER frost does have a lot of survivability and a lot of "stay there while I kill you lol" spells I would honestly recommend to try the 3 specs although Fire lacks any real snare/slow/root spell and the only one that is 100% secure is Frostbolt (The Horror!) but still you go and try them.
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