Lichborne: What to do with your new level 85 death knight in patch 4.2

Every week, WoW Insider brings you Lichborne for blood, frost, and unholy death knights. In the post-Cataclysm era, death knights are no longer the new kids on the block. Let's show the other classes how a hero class gets things done.
The when, how, and if of questing in Molten Front
The obvious questing choice in patch 4.2 is certainly the Molten Front. Starting with Thrall's quest at Mount Hyjal, which will give you a new cape, you can then proceed to the Sanctuary of Malorne, where Matoclaw will start you on the Molten Front quest line. After doing all the introductory quests and the first set of dailies, you'll gain access to Zen'Vorka, a vendor who will sell you a necklace good for both tanking and DPS, and a pair of tanking boots, both of which are equal to tier 11 raiding gear, if not slightly better. It's only a couple hours of work, so there's no real reason not to do it.
As to whether it's worth it to keep doing the dailies, that's another question altogether. First, check out our guide to Molten Front death knight gear to see what you can unlock from other vendors. There are some very good, very clear upgrades to any gear you'll see out of heroic dungeons. However, most stuff will be only sidegrades or very slight upgrades to ilevel 359 gear you can get from tier 11 raiding or justice points.
Because of this, whether you continue with the dailies for the sake of new gear depends in large part on your chosen path. If you're looking to get tier 12 raiding as soon as possible, you may find that it's a better use of your time to farm JPs and get in on tier 11 raid PUGs. You can probably pick up enough ilevel 359 gear to step into Firelands before you unlock all three vendors.
That said, if you don't have a Firelands group waiting for you or you're taking your time, it's probably worth it to unlock the three vendors.
This is also a good time to talk about the Masterwork Elementium Deathblade. When it first came out, it was a nice heavy hitter, with a 3.8 speed and a high-end damage to match. This made it a very clear upgrade over any normal tier 11 weapon and, even a 20k gold price tag, a pretty smart buy for any casual 2H-wielding death knight looking for an easy upgrade.
Unfortunately, since it's gone live, it's been nerfed to 3.5 speed, with a lower high-end damage to match. This has suddenly dropped it down to being a barely a sidegrade for most ilevel 359 weapons and arguably worse than some of them.
Now, it's no good to overreact to the nerf. It is still a very well-itemized sword, with haste and mastery meaning it's great for both 2H death knight DPS specs and even passable for tanking. It's still going to be an upgrade to any heroic dungeon weapon, including those from the Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub heroics.
However, there's a strong argument that it's no longer worth the 20k you'll have to spend on it. It's barely an upgrade to 3.6 speed choices like Akirus, the Worm-Breaker, and it's arguably worse than 3.8 speed, ilevel 359 options such as Reclaimed Ashkandi. Because the top-end damage on a weapon is such a crucial component of how well our strikes hit, a 3.8 speed, ilevel 359 weapon will simply hit harder and do more damage, despite the slight stat loss.
Essentially, if you don't have cheap access to the Truegold needed to make this sword, you may just be better off saving your money and running BWD and BOT PUGs for an ilevel 359 weapon instead.
Other questing choices at level 85
While a lot of the gear on some of the other Cataclysm reputation vendors has arguably been rendered obsolete by the Molten Front, ilevel 359 JP epics, and easy tier 11 raids, there are still a few things that are good enough that they're worth picking up, even if only for stopgaps until you get drops from tier 11 raids or Zul dungeons.
- If you chose the DPS cloak from the Thrall quest line, you'll want to grab the Wrap of the Great Turtle from exalted Guardians of Hyjal for your tanking off set. You'll get exalted pretty easily from Molten Front dailies.
- At revered with Therazane, you'll be able to pick up an ilevel 346 ring for either tanking or DPS. You should be close to revered if you leveled up through Deepholm, and if you're interested in endgame PVE, you'll want exalted for the shoulder enchant anyway.
- Sandguard Bracers come from exalted Ramkahen and should serve you well as tank bracers until you buy VP bracers.
- At revered with the Wildhammer or Dragonmaw clans, you can get both an ilevel 346 tanking helm and an ilevel 346 set of DPS gloves.
- If you gather enough currency with your side's Tol Barad faction, you can pick up some ilevel 359 trinkets. Impatience of Youth is a solid DPS trinket until you can get some tier 11 drops, and Mirror of Broken Images is still used by many tanks for magic-heavy fights even today.
For some idea of how to gear up, check out our death knight gearing list series:
- Pre-heroic death knight tank gear
- Pre-heroic death knight DPS gear
- Pre-raid death knight tank gear
- Pre-raid death knight DPS gear
- Professions for the level 85 death knight
- Zul dungeon gear for death knights
- Tier 11 raid gear for death knight tanks
- Tier 11 raid gear for death knight DPS
- Gemming, reforging, and other item enhancements for death knight tanks
- Tier 12 valor point options for death knights
Knowing when to queue for heroics
Figuring out when you're ready to queue for dungeons can be difficult, but remember this first of all: Queueing for level 85 normal dungeons still gives you JPs. Not only will you get 140 JPs for the first seven dungeons you complete after each Tuesday server reset, but bosses will drop small amounts of JPs. This means you can run normal dungeons as long as you need to, until you've bought all the ilevel 359 JP gear you need. You can buy all three of your tier 11 set pieces, buy the other ilevel 359 accessories, then grab whatever ilevel 346 gear you need to fill in gaps until you get Zul dungeon or raid drops instead, all without setting foot in a heroic dungeon. Don't be afraid to take your time in normals, because you will be moving forward when you queue for them, even if at a slower pace.
That said, if you're impatient to get started on heroics, it's still good to set some personal goals. Of course, Blizzard won't let you into heroics until you hit a certain minimal gear level, but said gear levels are often pretty arbitrary and don't always say anything about how ready you are. When I play a DPS, I always make sure I am capable of at least 8k DPS against your average boss in a normal dungeon before I set foot in a normal heroic. This is sort of the classic pre-4.1 minimum competency level and a decent jumping-off point, so I know I won't be a complete burden. For a Zul heroic, try getting to the 10k DPS threshold. That's also a good rule of thumb for whether or not you're ready to try for a Baradin Hold group. Tier 11 PUGs are a little stickier, and I'd tend to shoot for 12k DPS for those, though you might still be able to get away with 10k DPS, assuming no one else in the raid is any lower than that.
For tanks, it's a little harder to judge. Remember that pure stamina won't always get you by in the new Cataclysm era. You'll definitely want a good chunk of mastery, and probably some avoidance (parry and dodge rating) while you're at it. My general rule of thumb for a Zul heroic is to have at least 140k HP self-buffed without gemming or enchanting specifically for stamina. Also, remember to use your cooldowns. Keeping your cooldowns cycled so that one is up as much as possible or so that one is up when the mob is doing increased damage, especially on boss fights, can do just as much as good gear in keeping you good to go in dungeons.
Why PVP gear isn't for PVE
When trying to make the minimal gear level for heroics or even normal dungeons, it's very tempting to go to AH or dip into any honor points you have saved up from leveling and grab a piece of high-level PVP gear in order to make the cut.
Just remember, if you do this, that the gear level is a lie. This is because a large portion of the gear's budget will be taken up with resilience. Resilience does nothing against PVE damage. It does not strengthen your character in dungeons and raids. It cannot be reforged away, either. Thus, a seemingly strong ilevel 358 piece of PVP gear turns out to be barely as strong as an ilevel 333 normal dungeon drop for PVE purposes, if that.
If you're thinking of buying PVP gear with your honor points in order to get into PVE dungeons, stop. Instead, go to Edlan Halsing in Stormwind or Rogoc in Orgimmar. Either of them will trade you JPs for your honor points. That will put you well on your way to a much more useful piece of ilevel 359 PVE gear.
A similar thing can be said of agility gear. Since a recent patch, agility no longer gives dodge chance to tank classes. This means that death knights who formerly sometimes grabbed agility weapons or jewelry as a tanking stopgap aren't doing themselves any favors. Leave that stuff for the hunters and the rogues now, because just like PVP gear, a large part of the item budget is almost completely useless to you now, and you'd be better off grabbing even an inferior piece that has the stats you can use.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Arrohon Aug 16th 2011 3:18PM
It's quite possible that honor might be a faster way to get jp. This all depends on how often you're dead and win though.
Outis Aug 16th 2011 3:30PM
I hit 85 on my death knight just this past Friday, so this subject is near and dear to my heart.
I bought two Gurubashi Punishers and the Band of the Gurubashi Berserker. The ZG BOEs are only a few hundred gold, so this is a very economical option. Similarly, JP boots are cheap as well - tanks will want the 365s from Molten Front, but DPS DKs can and should pick up a nice pair of 359 shoes. This, along with the necklace and cape that are basically free upon hitting 85 (Thanks, Blizz!) will put you nicely on the way to being heroic-ready, especially if you've been running dungeons. Don't worry about still having a few blues or greens - I ran the T11 instances over the weekend and managed to top 3 the meter on most fights, even finishing first once, despite having two greens. The important things are that your equipped ilvl is high enough (please don't wear pvp gear or gear of the wrong spec to cheat the system, you're only hurting yourself), your spec and glyphs are correct (check EJ), and that your stuff is properly gemmed and enchanted (get green gems and cheap enchants for the crappy gear, but at least put something there - every little bit helps).
Cheap BOEs are a fresh 85's best friend. If you have extra gold lying around, like I did, you can get the Valor bracers or a Darkmoon card, but the weapon is the most important slot to a melee dps. Gurubashi Punishers make a great on-ramp.
Matt Aug 16th 2011 4:18PM
Oh look, *more* gear articles....
I'm begining to doubt that our oh so wonderful (can you hear my sarcasm yet) has even begun on *any* of the new bosses, since he is just comepletely avoiding the topic.
These articles are very useful, and not just for fresh 85's, but your timing is poor. First thing people want to know about a new raid tier, is about the new bosses, not old gear.
ugoticedbro Aug 16th 2011 5:16PM
I personally have never made a dk past level 72, but I'm a wow insider junkie so I still tend to read these despite not playing the class, and I have to say, as some one who doesn't really raid anymore, I enjoy these articles compared to seeing the same boss fights for different classes over and over again. Not saying you dont have a valid point in wanting a dk version of ryolith, just pointing out it's a nice change of pace.
crazyeight Aug 16th 2011 4:24PM
i really think that lichbourne should go more in depth with the issue of death knight tanking in heroic firelands and the issues that encompass it. this was a good article but i would like to see a little bit more about endgame tanking. thanks
Vector Aug 16th 2011 4:48PM
Is there an addon out there that makes special attack sequencing easier? I've used Acherus and DocsDebugRunes, but both have the rune display so I kind of have to do the math in my head to figure out whether to hit obliterate or frost strike. Short of just staring at my action bar icon, is there an ideal way to just be able to tell if obliterate is up?
Vector Aug 16th 2011 4:57PM
Replying to myself here, but just pointing out that my same question applies to tanking as well (timing death strike vs. rune strike, etc)
Rezic Aug 16th 2011 5:14PM
Lichborne is suffering. It seems like these articles lack the life and insight they once used to contain. Can we please get away from the "BiS" and "gear" articles, and cover something more insightful (e.g. Discuss proposed upcoming threat changes in 4.3 and ramifications on the DK tank, or even DK DPS or tank mechanics in 4.2 and/or Firelands?). Please, research Daniel - tell us something we don't already know, theorycraft. Any beginner DK can go to Wowhead or EJ and look up a BiS list. This is not a slam, Daniel - just the concerned request of a dedicated Lichborne follower.
slim1256 Aug 16th 2011 5:38PM
Hopefully DK-type people read this, so maybe I can get some help:
I'm looking for an addon that will tell me the cumulative damage I've taken in the past 5 seconds, for the purpose of maximizing the healing from Death Strike. Does such an addon exist?
Also - this topic is near and dear to me, as well, since my DK is 40% of the way through level 84. Timely for me, though I understand why some folks are bent out of shape wanting more "endgame" discussion and commentary.
Jaq Aug 16th 2011 8:41PM
I use Blood Shield Tracker, which tells you the amount of your shield, duration of the shield, and your estimated heal. Right handy little add on.
Nut Aug 16th 2011 6:10PM
I have to disagree with the section on PvP gear. This is purely anecdotal , but I'm sure an enterprising young theory crafter could back it up with solid numbers:
When I first hit 85 on my DK, the Firelands patch had just hit. I didn't really feel much like grinding on heroic instance drops on yet another character, so I hopped on my blacksmith and made all of the new season crafted gear. I queued up for a few heroics in this gear and found myself easily out DPSing characters that were in heroic quality gear or less. So, with just a little money spent on crafted PvP gear, I skipped that whole grind. This meant that my dungeon runs were running quicker and I was getting JPs and VPs easier and didn't feel like I was being dragged through.
Fast forward a bit and I've gotten 1-2 tanking drops from Trollroics, full season 10 pvp honor gear, and a few conquest pieces. Mix that together with the tanking cloak from the thrall quest and the tanking rings, relic, and bracers from Molten Front dailies, and I'm now tanking Trollroics with ease. I've got about 5 pieces of Epic pvp gear mixed in, the rest is standard tank stuff.
Is it optimal? No. Am I going to be tanking raids? Probably not, but I could be soon. But, and this is the most important question, does it work? Oh yes.
So no, don't write off the PvP gear for filling in slots that you can't otherwise easily fill in. For tanking, try to aim for the pieces with Mastery if you need to fill out slots. But don't forget that all that huge armor and strength converts into damage reduction and parry rating. A lot of it. I currently have 14% parry and 10.5% dodge unbuffed. I forget where my mastery is sitting, number wise, but it's somewhere around 100% healed to blood shield ratio.
DPS is even easier. Given the choice between a heroic ilevel blue and a season 10 honor epic that is 25 ilevels above it, I'll go for the honor gear every time. You'll gear up faster and be ready for raiding in no time. You can essentially skip all the way from quest gear to DPSing Trollroics with just some gold spent. Far better than spending endless days farming heroics to have gear good enough to get into troll heroics. You'll save yourself quite a lot of grinding and be that much closer to your goal.
Lachdanan Aug 16th 2011 9:55PM
You took the words right out of my mouth (or my keyboard in this case ^^). If you do the math - which is pretty easy, no need to have a degree from MIT to multiply a stat by its weight - honor gear wins everytime against ilvl 346 gear and a lot of the time against trollroics (I'm adopting this word, hope you don't mind :D) gear, especially with stacking set bonuses.
Geo Lara Aug 16th 2011 6:53PM
Lichborne: What to do with your new level 85 death knight in patch 4.2
The correct answer is: Learn how to tank, and queue up as one.
Helston Aug 16th 2011 7:29PM
Quick note: you DO NOT need to do the Thrall quest chain to do the Molten Front dailies. The two are completely independent.
Although the 365 cloak is nice.
JohnTaylor Aug 17th 2011 6:17AM
No, just target yourself and use death coil after you've cast Lichborne !
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