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8-18-2011 @ 12:27PM
Drakkenfyre said...
"Integrated directly into the bag and bank UI"
Oh God, I hope I can turn that off. It's a great option to have, but I really, really don't want to see yet another thing cluttering up the UI. I hope they give us the option to turn it off, because I simply don't need a search option, and it will be yet another UI element which is useless to me (and I imagine many others.) Removing the ability to remove the clock from the minimap was bad enuf. And I don't want to have to track down a mod simply to give me the option to have a clean UI that should be an option to begin with.
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8-18-2011 @ 1:06PM
Astoreth said...
I understand the 'any clutter is too much clutter' philosophy, but all things considered that's a pretty unobtrusive little search window in that screenshot. And it's not going to be on your screen all the time, only when you open bags or bank.
8-18-2011 @ 1:15PM
Drakkenfyre said...
"Only when you open bags", i.e. it's going to be there every time I open a bag, which is all the time.
I don't mind options being put in as long as an option is included to disable them. Like the "instant chat" option being put in. A big, honking bar across my window just so people don't have to hit Enter once to open up chat? At least it was given an option to be turned off.
Tooltips have been creeping up in size, too. With the addition of vendor price and item level. Both of those can be removed.
I just hope we can disable this so each time I open my bags, I won't see a bar across the top making them larger just for a feature I will personally not use. Because take into consideration that that screenshot shows a larger window. Imagine how it's going to look in a tiny window for your bag. It will probably enlarge the bag window quite a bit. If someone finds a use for it, that's great for them. All I ask is the ability to disable it.
I would also like the option put in to disable the automatic opening of ALL bags when you open a vendor or a mailbox. It was mentioned awhile back that that might get a disable option.
8-18-2011 @ 1:22PM
Drakkenfyre said...
I knew I was going to get voted down.
"I hope we can disable this, because it might be great for some, but annoying for others."
"OH MY GOD, HE THINKS IT SUCKS! DOWNVOTE HIM!"
Options for features. You wouldn't appreciate it if they decided to move all action bars to the top of the screen, and move the minimap to the center, without giving you the option to change it. Some people will like the new feature, some people won't. How to make them both happy? Include an option to disable it. Win/win.
8-18-2011 @ 1:51PM
Eirik said...
I hear you and sympathize, Drdakkenfyre. I would not even be offended if you needed to use the macro API ("slash commands") to do the turning on and off.
I use BankItems, which is largely a command line interface. And the beauty of a command line interface is that it does not require any screen real estate to add a new command or function, unlike graphic interfaces. Menus (startmenu, for example) are both a recognition of that, and a compromise.
If, like me, you've already got (most of) the functionality being added, the built-in search function won't add much. (Thus spake the item-set addon user too, I imagine.)
Blizzard recognizes the merits of "don't make it easy to screw up your character". For example, the guy you talk to to turn XP gain off is stealthed and in a location characters don't go to on a regular basis. Unless you know he's there, you are unlikely to accidentally turn your XP off.
8-18-2011 @ 1:58PM
Al said...
I almost down-voted you for "enuf", but moved on.
8-18-2011 @ 2:16PM
Drakkenfyre said...
"Enuf" is a pretty common abbreviation. It's similiar to "thru", which has seemed to overtaken "through", as even some companies use it (see Blizzard, for example. I know I've seen it used by GM's lots of times.) It might not be grammatically correct, but at least it's not "plz", or even worse, "pl0x".
8-18-2011 @ 2:13PM
Eyhk said...
For the amount of customization you want, I think getting mods would do so much more for you than to complain. Just a couple mods and you can basically rid your entire screen of everything. And I'm not trying to be sarcastic, minimalist looks with only what you need are definitely better UI design than everything everyone might need at any given moment. However, since Blizzard also needs to make it easy to use for the new user while also not cluttering the configuration screen too much, they lean heavily on the mod makers for the rest.
8-18-2011 @ 2:32PM
Drakkenfyre said...
Eyhk, it's not that I want a simplistic, nothing-on-it UI. It's that I want an option for each UI-changing feature to allow it to be disabled. If someone doesn't care what the item level of an item is, they can turn that off. If someone doesn't care what the vendor value of an object is, they can turn it off. It someone doesn't want their chat and/or combat logs in one place, they can move them.
They add options to most of these changes. You can choose whether or not to have item levels on tooltips. You can choose whether or not the world map is fullscreen, or not.
But the thing that makes me worried about this being a permanent change is this,
"Hey, we're going to stick a clock up by the minimap. But there's an option to disable it if you don't want. Hey, look at that, we removed that option!"
They added the option to remove the clock, then a few months later, REMOVED the option. So now you are forced to have the minimap clock even if you didn't want it (a clock always existed by hovering over the sun/moon and later the date.)
I still would like to be able to change the quest log tracking to the old-style fading. So after it's been up awhile, it fades away unless you are completing objectives. Now you get two options. Up in your face all the time, or off.
There should be a better answer than "download a mod."
All that is needed is a "Show search field on bags and banks" option. They have options for a ton of other things, I hope this one gets one, too.
8-18-2011 @ 3:21PM
Eyhk said...
The problem with an option for everything is that it quickly becomes an option for nothing, far to cluttered and complicated for any beginning user to even dare attempt to delve into its far reaches. That's why Blizzard is leaning on mod developers, to fill in that gap for the more experienced, I-know-what-I-want user. If every piece of customization was available in the configuration GUI, it would basically look like the Windows Registry. I doubt anybody would think going through it would be "fun".
8-18-2011 @ 6:46PM
Drakkenfyre said...
But the thing is, with the exception of one or two things, there already ARE options for just about anything.
Have you looked at it lately? Each patch they rearrange it, and shove things in new catagories. Even going so far as putting a ! beside each new option.