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8-22-2011 @ 2:10PM
No. Most people I know... won't step into ZA/ZG because the time per VP given isn't worth the wipefest. The only two slots you can get are helm and shoulders and 346 can do fine there until you get a T11 token.IMO, ZA/ZG are just a time sink with nothing worth doing them for... INCLUDING VP.
8-22-2011 @ 4:19PM
This is why they won't merge ZA/ZG with the other heroics a la ICC. I think people forget that while the ICC dungeons were harder, they were also shorter and had uncomplicated mechanics. Two tank and spank bosses and a gauntlet for HoR. Two bosses (with mildly interesting mechanics) for FoS. PoS was the only HoR run that had a bit of a time commitment and the worst thing was still the string of trash pulls before the cave o' falling ice. I didn't mind getting a HoR dungeon for my daily because it was a quick fun run. The Zans are long and the mechanics are not trivial. If we return to the 15 minute queue for DPS like we had in late Wrath, then people will drop when they pull a Zan (just like they sometimes do for DM and GB) and simply re-queue.
8-22-2011 @ 4:25PM
Following up on my own post, the ultimate fix would be to make some of the Zan bosses optional like Halls of Origination. HoO is probably my favorite of the first tier of Cata dungeons because of the flexibility (even with the horribly irritating first boss).
8-22-2011 @ 5:16PM
Yeah, I don't know why this point hasn't gotten more attention because it's the major turd in the punch bowl. I'm sure we would all like to see all heroics give 140 VP, because it would help us gear up faster. But then who in their right mind would stay in the dungeon if ZA or ZG popped? They are significantly harder AND longer than the other heroics. Remember how many people would drop from Occulus? HoReflection? Hell, people still drop H DM these days because of it's relative difficulty and lenght. If there's a difference in time commitment or difficulty, people won't play them. So why do ZA/ZG, unless you really needed a drop (which will be even more obsolete once 4.3 comes out) or some crystals (down to 60g on my server)?
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