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8-22-2011 @ 3:30PM
Definitely agree with the author, making the reward 140 VP for all lvl 85 heroics makes a lot of sense. However, this should be accompanied by a nerf to ZA/ZG, since, perhaps somewhat surprisingly, these heroics are still largely a wipefest when pugged, even now at ~6 months post patch 4.1, and with most puggers sporting 365 ilvl gear. Most people (puggers) just don't know the fight mechanics, and even 365 ilvl gear does not allow you to 'brute force' your way thru most of the bosses. This is the reason why, even now with ilvl 370+ on my main, i do not pug ZA/ZG-- it's just pure misery. For the same reason, I will not attempt to pug the new 5-mans coming with path 4.3
8-24-2011 @ 11:02AM
No. Za/Zg does not need ANOTHER nerf. If anything, buff up regular heroics to 140VP, and increase the difficulty. If you think that creates too big of a gap from normal to heroic, then keep heroic at 70VP. There is no reason whatsoever to nerf ZaZg again. They aren't a wipe fest. I pug it all the time and rarely wipe. You might be the one causing wipes perhaps? I've been in ZA/ZG with numerous undergearred roles, and still get through them just fine.
8-24-2011 @ 12:16PM
To Tony- Dude, then you must be getting lucky with your pug group my friend and be in a group on your own in skillz, perhaps I will have the good fortune of pugging with your toon one day, XD. As for me, my main is healer and Za/Zg is easy to heal, compared to raiding FL which is where I spend most of my WoW time-- but good heals isn't going to save from a wipe if tank or DPS is pulling on a whim, and the group is attacking every boss without a word on strat. That might, and does, work for the original Cata Heroics, but not for Za/Zg. Have a good look at the other posts to this article, you will see most agree with me.
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