Drama Mamas: Namecalling
Things don't have to be serious to potentially cause drama.
Dear Drama Mamas,
I have a in-game pet peeve that I could use some advice in working through. In short, it's being called by my class in randoms. For me, it's like nails on chalkboard, being called "Hunter, trap square" or "Priest, on adds". Now, I've been playing since BC launched, so you'd think I'd have a tougher skin when it comes to something seemingly so small, but I really don't. I used to have a lot more tolerance, but I really think upon reflection that people just used to use names more often on my server in pugs. From my perspective, when you call someone by their class, you're relegating them to being an object, an npc that you're directing what to do and where to go. Excuse me, but I'm a person who chose their toon's name with care when I created them literally years ago for most of them. If I can take the time to type in the first four letter of your name in party chat, can't you do the same? I'm okay with using roles (tank/heals/dps), since those are groups of people who are doing the same job in the group. That's not derogatory.
I don't have this problem when it comes to pug raids (mostly because there's usually more than one toon per class) or guild runs ("where everybody knows your naaaame..."), but randoms is where it bites hard. I've thought about making a macro to spam at the beginning of runs ("Hi! I'm Me! Please use my name, not my class in chat. k? tnx."), but I don't want to be passive aggressive or open up a debate when I just want to run the dungeon. I have seriously thought in the heat of the moment about just ignoring directions from the tank (sorry, but most of the time, you're the ones giving the orders) since you have the time to type up orders, yet no time to look up and type my name, or giving a snappy bite-back ("Yes, Warrior.").
I do realize that most people really have no clue that this peeves me off; that's why I'm looking to you for advice on how to communicate this without coming across as an ass.
Thanks!
I'm A Name, Not A Class
- Rational Rogue is spelled rogue, not rouge. Rouge is a cosmetic. Rogue is a sneaky thief. The class is a rogue. Rouge is something I get from MAC.
- Irrational I don't like to be called Rob. It's a boy's nickname! I don't mind Robbie or Bobbi, though. I know they are also boy's nicknames. I prefer Robin, but if you insist on calling me a nickname, don't call me Rob.
I'm going to be honest with you, Name: I think your pet peeve is irrational. With all the things that are going wrong in PUGs -- all the offensively funsucking things that could be said -- the one that really gets you going is being called by your class name? Regardless, I offer you a two-step program to minimize your annoyance: communicate and smile.
- Communicate At the beginning of the run, please don't give a "don't" to your random team. But do give a friendly greeting. "Hey, I'm Boadicea. Call me Bo. :)" Now you've told them what you want to be called and let them know in a friendly manner. By the way, telling someone what you want to be called is not being passive-aggressive -- but not answering unless someone calls you your name is being extremely passive-aggressive.
- Smile If your teammates still insist on calling you Priest or whatever, smile through it. It's not a Real Problem. Now if the hunter doesn't follow the agreed-upon loot rules, or the rogue runs ahead and pulls before the healer is ready, or the tank uses a racial epithet, then by all means speak up (politely) and take appropriate actions. But if the tank is too busy trying to get you successfully through the instance to remember that you like to be called Mireille, please just smile and say, "Yes sir, Warrior-guy!" or something else appropriate. Then just try again next run.
Note: If your name is hard to spell or hard to pronounce (sometimes it's hard to wrap your brain around someone's name if you can't pronounce it in your head), please come up with a nickname you like to be called (like Bo above). Or if your name gets abbreviated to something you also dislike, choose a nickname to use instead. For example, I'd rather people not shorten Peenk to Pee, so if they absolutely can't type out all 5 characters -- well, then I mock them and say call me P.
One thing that might help is to remember that a member of your class is not an object, but a person. So when someone calls you Priest, it's a title, not a diminishment. Be proud of your class! You're good at it and obviously like to do it, else you would play something else.
Is that attitude offensive? It might be, depending which side of the fence you're on. It stings to be treated like a cog in the wheels, especially if the person doing the labeling is a raider and you are a more casual player for whom instances are the main event. You want to be able to relax, sink into the game world, connect with others, and actually play the game -- as opposed to being a tick mark on somebody else's checklist.
Still, not everyone is going to feel this way. There's nothing inherently wrong, after all, with racing through PUGs. And you can't let that fact ruin your own enjoyment of the game. Robin's advice may well help you deal with the inevitable -- but it is inevitable that someone will end up calling you by your class or role. Understand that those other players are just trying to get through a part of the game that's no so fun for them anymore. If anything, you might feel a wee little snippet of sympathy for them. /sniff, sniff
And hey -- yeah, you over there! If you're one of those guys who actually calls others by their class names ... Naw, you're not off the hook -- it's true, you're being a little brusque. As I'm a Name points out, it really doesn't take more time or effort to type out the first few letters of a player's name; you don't have to puzzle out the entire, arcane patchwork of every mangled, pseudo-Celtic mélange. You may find pugging to be one more dreary task on your to-do list -- but whatever your personal feelings may be, you've put yourself out in public with other players, and it behooves you to wipe the pizza sauce off your chin, pull up your big boy pants, and act like a civilized person. Social niceties are, indeed, nice! Represent yourself with class!
Before we all pack up today's picnic, let's remember one more reason someone might call players by class instead of by name. Names in WoW are hard. Even that one vowel you changed because your preferred spelling was taken -- perfectly logical to you -- is just another annoyance (Was that -ae or -ea? Is that male? Female? How do you say that, anyway?) to a groupmate who's trying to race through typing out a strategy.
If your name is anything but utterly obvious, don't take being addressed by alternate forms personally. Take it for what it is: the mark of a player who's probably more focused on getting his stuff taken care of than he is adventuring with a party of fellow Azerothians. For what it's worth, dude probably knows the basics, so you're likely to get through the instance with minimal time and effort ... and on to the next group of potentially more friendly players all the sooner.
Better luck next group!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 10)
mazca13 Aug 22nd 2011 9:09AM
This little peeve has always annoyed me too, but it's so widespread these days that it just about stopped bothering me.
It does show how much i've internalized being referred to as "warlock" or "lock", though - when the NPC in Shadowfang Keep says "this lock should be easy enough to pick..." I always initially think he's talking to me!
Angus Aug 22nd 2011 9:46AM
Um. I have that stuff a macro.
I click on the ones that work for the group.
If hunter in group, I click macro 1. "Hunter please ice trap square"
If shaman macro 2: " Shaman, please bind star and hex triangle"
Warlock = macro 3: " Lock get diamond. That means the sideways square. And by get I mean banish."
Macro 4: " sheep moon and make me some cake"
I may also ask for cookies from the lock and to get their soulstone ready.
Why is my lock macro mean? Because they win the contest for not following orders 90% of the time.
0_o
Prelimar Aug 22nd 2011 9:54AM
jeez, Angus, i'm surprised you don't take heat from mages for your mage macro. if i was in your group, i'd certainly be rubbed wrong by that one. but on topic, i feel exactly the same way as the OP. i really hate it when i'm just referred to by my class title. but as Robin said: you know what, you're damn right... i AM a Mage, and maybe being referred to by my title isn't bad -- it's an earned title.
Sinthar Aug 22nd 2011 10:36AM
So you actually mind your manners when asking for some hunter or shaman to do something - to the lock your rather hard (As a mage I applaud - as a person I think your being rude - unless ofc your another mage - but in that case you wouldnt ask for cake so...RUDE!!!). To the mage you dont even say please. TBH as a dps in your party I would respond by using my macro. And yes it usually gets me booted (cos its not exactly polite either) - but is more fun than just acting like your slave, mind you seeing as I normally run with a pocket tank n healer - its quite lightly you would be vote kicked and if you were annoying enough that would be just before the last boss. Politeness costs NOTHING where as that macro would just get you ignored on my tanks and healers.
Nadia Aug 22nd 2011 10:26AM
@ Angus
How about a macro that says "DPS please CC everything but skull and X, but not with fears."
Way more polite, specific enough to get proper crowd control, general enough to work for all groups, and more convenient since it's only one macro instead of having to use 4.
locken Aug 22nd 2011 11:09AM
@ Nadia,
Any warlock running heroics should have the fear glyph, so fear is a perfectly fine CC.
Sunaseni Aug 22nd 2011 12:20PM
Indeed, there's no time even at the start of the instance to get to even see the classes. Everyone zoned in? Good. Chain pulling!
If anything, it causes a separate challenge. You now get to distinguish yourself from the many other players of your class they came across. You know you're good when the members of your pug call you by your name. Okay, that may not be likely, but they might ad a "the" in front of your class. Being a "The [Class]" sure beats "[class]".
Don't take problems in randoms so personally. Try to have fun in them. Use your utility to distinguish yourself from others of your class. As a mage, for instance, I like Zul'Aman, especially when we get to the dragonhawk trash. Spellsteal earthquake from the Zandalari guy, spellsteal speed from the flame caster, and I'm meleeing for 27k DPS. Doesn't matter if I die due to threat, I regret nothing. (Course, I try to be careful if the other guys want the bear.)
Jeff (Not that one ^ ) Aug 22nd 2011 12:31PM
Nadia, Hex has a 45s cooldown so if a Mage sheeps my hex, we've wasted my CC.
Locken, fear is not an appropriate CC unless you're ready to pull RIGHT NOW since it's "social" and the mobs around the CC target will pull. Your buddy turning into a sheep, a frog, being enveloped in holy chains, being banished to the Twisting Nether, or ensnared by the earth is okay, but, "OH CRAP HE'S SCARED GUYS, KILL!!!!"
Angus Aug 22nd 2011 1:07PM
I usually have pleases and thank you'd in those macros folks (even the lock one) but I am posting on my phone.
The mean comments have ;) I swear
That reminds me, I need to make those universal so I can use them on my warrior too...
If you see a belf warrior named sodarnpretty, run. I suck as a tank.
Sahara Aug 22nd 2011 2:09PM
@Nadia
That instruction doesn't work because I have been in multiple ZA pugs where the hunter or mage would trap/sheep my (already!) sapped target, EVERY PULL. I kid you not. Tank had to instruct the hunter every pull to freeze the square, and every pull he would freeze my sap, and I would have to go and resap something else before the pull happened (didn't always get there in time either, because tank would pull as soon as he saw the frost trap spring, which he thought was the last cc he needed).
@Angus' macros
I use macros like these too, because they work for whatever class compositions are in the random without having to worry about someone pulling before people get the cc instructions. (Though... I do recommend slightly nicer ones... pissy mages can make pulls hell)
musicchan Aug 25th 2011 12:02AM
I'll admit, I'm guilty of using the class in place of name offense. Sometimes I really don't notice the names, but instead I see the class colours on my Grid. And to be fair, on Grid the names are very often shortened to something silly.
I'm more likely to call someone by their class if I find their name difficult or somewhat embarasing for me to type. But I imagine the people who give themselves stupid, immature names don't care if I call them "priest" instead of idonthealnoobs.
Matt Aug 22nd 2011 9:12AM
Woof. If the worst thing you experience in a PUG is that they call you by your class I want your PUG's.
Definitely remember that you are what you do in WoW. You can have the prettiest, most unique name in the Warcraft World, something you thought out for hours and hours one day, breaking down the variables and balancing it phonetically, so that it takes up every space Blizz gives you in that character creation screen... You are still a Priest, or a Dwarf to some 13 year old trying to hit his VP cap to get epic lootz.
Sinthar Aug 22nd 2011 10:35AM
This sort of vaguely annoys me too, but I carefully crafted my name so that the three letter abbreviation sticks in peoples minds - I have been very very VERY rarely called 'mage' mostly I get called Sin, or Sinth.
Advice tho - for everyone that calls people by their Class. You will stand out - not as an excellent player, not as a noob, but as someone who just Cannot be Bothered. I know a few people like that - and they NEVER make it into raids where I have a say on whos invited. I want Invested commited people, not people who cannot be bothered, as they usually stay to the first wipe then leave (or until they lose a loot roll). DONT BE THAT PERSON. as I for one dont even give you a chance (unfair I know - but hey my times valuble and if he couldnt make the effort to type 3 letters, I cant make the effort to find, /w him, /invite him and sort out the rest of the raid too), I will wait the extra 30 secs for an unknown or preferably a known good person.
Tribunal Aug 22nd 2011 10:21AM
Exactly. It's descriptive, not degrading. Plus using names sometimes requires the other 3 people to be paying attention to names.
Quick, what were the names of all the opponents in the Trial of the Champion/Crusade? Did you actually say "Oh boy Paletress" or "Kill Zul'tore/Stormhoof/etc first"? Nah, it was "The priest" or even "square". Sure, they're NPCs, and that does count for a tiny tiny something, but the point is that it's just an easier, more visual descriptor to some.
Personally, I use a mix of both. I'll try to use people's names if I think about it/have the time, but when I'm in the middle of trying to control something quickly you're just as likely to get "healer", "paladin", etc, especially if your name is long, complicated, or similar to someone elses. And especially since I'm using Grid with 3 letters showing (some people get the short end of the stick there, Assinth is slightly more likely to get "rogue", for example c: )
Deathknighty Aug 22nd 2011 10:37AM
As a fourteen-year-old, I actually find it really annoying when I'm referred to as "paladin", etc. I mean, first thing, it is at its core, treating the person as nothing but an object, which I think is a perfectly reasonable thing to get offended about. Secondly, names can be shortened down to the region of four characters without any trouble, with almost no exceptions, so there is truly no excuse for calling me "paladin" when you could call me the first four letters of my name. Hell, I'm actually not that bothered if they say "pala", because that's a very common shortened version of the word paladin and shortening a name off the bat requires some small tidbit of brain function. But going to the effort to type out a class name that is longer than the nickname they could have otherwise is just unjustifiable rude.
It's a matter of attitude, not age. When someone calls you by your class name when they could have easily referred to you by your name or a shortened version of it, it is because they cannot look past their screen and see that they are playing with real, flesh and blood people, who resent being addressed as common nouns. They're the kind of person who kicks a person who says they'll be back in a minute after fifteen seconds, the kind of tank who ditches their group after a single wipe. I fell fully justified in my anger at the kind of person who does that because I know that, chances are, they'd do something less trivially insulting given the opportunity.
Nina Katarina Aug 22nd 2011 10:53AM
I mostly agree with your comment except the bit about 13-year-olds. We have some very polite and mature 13 and 14 year olds in our guilds, and I've pugged random raids with men old enough for their voices to have broken but immature and impatient enough to make me want to write notes to their parents about how ashamed the parents ought to be.
Maturity and class often correspond with age, but not always.
Spellotape Aug 22nd 2011 12:43PM
Pretty much this. Intentional rudeness is definitely more annoying to me than being called lock, priest, or druid.
Puntable Aug 22nd 2011 1:19PM
@ Deathknighty
If your Paladin is named Deathknighty, I can see a good reason why people would call him "Paladin".
Nurowyn Aug 22nd 2011 2:08PM
If I'm pugging a 5-man, I'm healing. That means I've set up my UI to best do my job, which is healing you. Reading all 25 delicious characters of your name will not get that heal off any faster and might just distract me so that I miss something important, like you pulling aggro. If I have trouble reading your name in a hurry but can see the color of your nameplate, would you really rather I take the time to squint to read it or get you a heal so you can live?
I thought that might be the case. :P
If I identify you by the color of your nameplate rather than your name, it's nothing personal, I promise, and I'm not trying to objectify you in any way. I'm just trying to communicate as efficiently as possible while still doing my job. :)
Lokanaya Aug 22nd 2011 5:30PM
I have to agree. Obviously, my main and primary dungeon runner's name is Lokanaya, commonly shortened to Lok. See it there? The three letters arranged in a nice little triangle that, depending on the layout of your keyboard, you may not even have to pick up your finger for? It's certainly easier to type that "cat" or "Druid."
As Deathknighty said, most of the time, it's about attitude. When we're about to wipe, I can understand. (kind of, considering how easy it is to type my name) But when we're not, I don't.