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8-25-2011 @ 3:58PM
"You have to beat the normal version, then you have to beat the achievement, then you have to beat the heroic version"That seems out of order. If you're a hardmode progression raider wouldn't you do the achievements after you do the hardmode progression kills so you can, you know, have a more relaxed schedule?
8-25-2011 @ 4:17PM
If you're in a realistic position to compete for a world first, or at least, say a top ten kill, then those guilds will head straight for the heroic version as fast as they can. If you're everyone else in the "hardcore" set (to the extent that it can be described this way), it's often worth your time to stop for the achievements while your raid accrues the gear it wants/needs for heroic attempts. And then, of course, you have to go back to normal to get the achievements for anyone who didn't get them the first time around, or for people new to the guild ... hence the problem.
8-25-2011 @ 4:43PM
Allison, couldn't the same be said for BC? Not with achievements mind you, but when a new raider joins the team we would frequently have to revert ourselves to farmed content like Karazhan in order to gear that person up so we could do the higher up stuff (This is one of the reasons my guild never really got anywhere in T5).I don't think this is a symptom of the achievements, but of simply tiered raiding in general. Now we have the whole JP/VP conversion to handle the gear, so instead it's achievements. Same problem, different pieces.
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