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8-25-2011 @ 5:28PM
If you're really "not interested" in the hardcore vs casual argument, maybe you shouldn't spend so much time talking about unsatisfying and "less rewarding" the baseline raiding content is. And you REALLY shouldn't align your article with the sentiment that BC = Glory Days and everything since then (except Ulduar!!1) is crap. You wanna talk about a tired argument, boy howdy. I get it, it bothers all of you hardcore BC vets (all 1% of you). I'm not without sympathy; every time I hear somebody lament in Trade or Gchat about how much better things used to be in BC and how terrible everything is now, my day gets ruined too.If you instead want to talk about how achievements are screwing up your sense of progression, talk about THAT, and not how much better it was to kill bosses back when they were so hard that they were called "guild-killers."Sure, you used to be able to say you were "done" with an encounter or a raid. Good for you and your unshaken sense of completion. But do you know what else happens when your guild is DONE with the current raiding tier and there's no reason for raiders to log on until the next content patch? Sometimes it KILLS YOUR GUILD.
8-25-2011 @ 5:43PM
Most of the raiding guilds (except for the maybe the "server first" types of guilds) didn't have a lot of down-time between new raid content releases in Vanilla & BC because most guilds only killed like 1 or 2 new bosses a month (unless you got stuck in an endless Karazhan loop in BC). In general, you crawled slowly through the content and that's part of what gave people the sense of satisfaction when they conquered an encounter. It just feels different now with so many people clearing through normal modes on the first week & not having the natural pacing in place anymore to slow down the first string of boss kills.
8-25-2011 @ 5:59PM
Maybe it feels different than the progression you described, but it's really not. World Firsts come faster thanks to test realms and sponsored raid teams, and those teams are NOT "most raiding teams." OH NO! Paragon DREAM (sponsored, trademarked) finished Heroic Rag! Guess that means 4.2 is over!Stop this nonsense.
8-25-2011 @ 9:59PM
The problem is, it's already killing guilds. You get to the point where you feel like you're never going to get anywhere, and there's so much content ahead of you that you can't possibly finish it all. I despise the color red now, and I hate fire. I hate fire so much. I'm so sick of fucking fire.Liss is right - you didn't expect to get every boss down every month. It took a while to get things on farm, and every boss kill was a real achievement. With normal modes being so easy to get through, it makes Heroics seem really out of whack, and just an endless slogfest you'll never be done with.Did I mention how much I hate fire?
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