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8-26-2011 @ 10:07AM
How do you deal with the Low DPSer when it is the Guild Master? We are running into that problem, and have already confronted him about it. Last night, in a series of recent antics, stormed out of the game after we had someone in his spot for the trash when he was late to the raid.Obviously Gquitting is an option, but we (the officers & raid team) have put so much blood, sweat and tears into this guild that it would be a shame to just leave. Any advice from anyone running into a similar issue?
8-26-2011 @ 10:22AM
I had to deal with a GL that wasn't living up to expectations a while back. All of the core raiders and officers met and decided that if the GL didn't step down we would all leave and form a new guild. In our case the GL decided to hand over control of the guild to somebody else rather than have pretty much everybody leave, but you need to be willing to accept that in your case you may end up having to start fresh.
8-26-2011 @ 10:37AM
I've had this, but with a healer. Her excuses:1) I'm dealing with whispers the entire raid, I can't help it.2) I have to raid lead and make sure everyone else is doing their job.If the GM is going to be a raider, he/she needs to set hard limits about communication that can happen during a raid. If guildies don't get that their problem can't wait a few minutes or hours until the raid is over, they need to go somewhere else. We instituted a "don't whisper me unless you've mailed me" rule for things that weren't emergencies (and let's face it, what in WoW is really an emergency?) which cut down on officers being harassed during raids. Raid time is for raiding. If you're not raiding, that's fine. We are, so leave us alone for a bit and we'll handle your drama in a moment. If it's a "I'm trying to raid lead" problem, offer to take care of it for him/her. Some people can't watch the meters, the boss, the ground, and the rest of the raid and still maintain their rotation. There's a lot going on. We have a heal lead, a DPS lead, and the tanks pretty much take care of themselves. Being in a group with personal accountability is the best answer here. Having people who are willing to say, "That was me, I stood in X" saves time trying to parse out what went wrong between pulls. If it's a lack of knowledge (rotations, gearing, etc.) then you can either babystep them through by doing the research yourself, or find out who a good player from that class and spec is and suggest your GM contact them. I know it's not perfect, but when we're evaluating a new member for our raid team, we plug them into askmrrobot.com and see if they're even close to where they need to be with gems, enchants, and reforges. It's a quick and not always accurate tool, but like a Gearscore addon, it can give you an idea if that person is in the ballpark.
8-26-2011 @ 10:56AM
@g & @badgelooter: Unfortunately we, the officers, end up doing most of the raid leading. The GL just acts as more of a time keeper, so his responsibilities are definitely not an excuse. I think I was looking for a magic wand to fix the situation, but I am sure you are right; a hard stance of give us the keys or we will gtfo is warranted at this point.Thx for the input.
8-26-2011 @ 2:47PM
I don't know if it's time to throw up your hands yet. Have you tried the soft-sell? I've had this work before:Start an alt of whatever class your problem player has. Get to level 15ish, then whisper them, "Hey, I was looking at your *spec/gear/rotation* for some tips, and then I saw this article on *pick your resource* and they suggested doing *something else.* I was wondering if you could tell me how you've found your way works? I'm all for trying new things, but I don't understand why they say to do things that way." Or the old, I accidentally cut some of these gems, and it turns out they're not that great for me. I read where your class might use them better. Want a great deal?Might turn them on to something they're doing/not doing that solves their issue. The disadvantage is you'll have to do a bit of homework and may be out some gold. The advantage is you're not calling them an idiot, you're calling someone else an idiot and making them feel like you think they have the superior knowledge. Worked for me on a few occasions, but obviously YMMV. Good luck, and remember, holding back 9/24 people in order to placate one isn't fair to the 9/24. They commit their time and energy to progression, and everyone owes it to each other to perform as well as they can.
8-26-2011 @ 6:31PM
In particular I find it's very hard to raid lead and heal at the same time. I would suggest that your RL delegate some of his/her responsibility if he/she is also a healer.
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