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9-02-2011 @ 2:13PM
"On Occu'thar, for example, they'll both stand inside the void zones on the ground in order to give themselves targets to heal."That's as good a reason as I've seen for a raid kick or some kind of serious talking to. The first thing you should always evaluate _any_ raid member on is how much avoidable damage they take. If they are failing on that, you don't even need to look at their DPS, HPS or whatever charts.Yeah, I seriously disagree on your heal sniping commentary; cross healing needs to be encouraged at pretty much every opportunity or else you're enforcing many more single points of failure in your raid strats. Delivering on your raid assignment is always job #1 and I think that's the point you're trying to make but you better believe that I'm going to be hotting tanks and using nourish on a health depleted tank to keep up harmony when raid healing mana allowing, and you bet that I'm casting wild growth on the raid when it makes sense and I can afford it while tank healing. The only time I would make an exception to cross healing is when you're trying to sus out your healing strat/assignments for an encounter. There you do want to make sure one assignment isn't too overburdened and riding on the coat tails of another assignment.Heal sniping dosen't exist, its discussion is a symptom of a failed raid environment that is putting too much emphasis on HPS/Total healing done numbers.
9-02-2011 @ 2:26PM
Occu'thar with five to six healers is very serious business for a guild that's running Firelands hard modes. We should totally punish our healers for having their own fun and seeing how hard they can push their healing instead of sitting around bored because none of us are taking any damage. We could single heal the encounter if we wanted to, so the worst case is that those two healers die. Big deal.Cross healing is not heal sniping. Tossing a HoT on a tank or raid member is not heal sniping. Heal sniping is when you go out of your way to heal another healers target before they can do it. Paladins were generally most notorious for this in previous expansions because of their strong reliance on Flash of Light. Most other healers had to rely on much longer heals to cast compare to paladins, so it was fairly easily for a paladin to get off a Flash of Light on the target before the heal from another healer would land.
9-02-2011 @ 2:41PM
@Tyler: totally agree with your post about sniping (also as a response to Jasyla in the following post), but if your healers are bored in Occu'thar, I suggest running as few healers as possible. We were 1-healing the old BH boss about 5 weeks into the expac.
9-02-2011 @ 2:42PM
I still don't see how racing to heal people up is a bad thing. If you can afford all that overhealing, then that means you have a large buffer before raid deaths, or could even afford to have a healer switch to DPS if you want.
9-02-2011 @ 2:58PM
"Occu'thar with five to six healers is very serious business for a guild that's running Firelands hard modes."Then it would never be brought up for examination in that situation, the log would never even be clicked on. No one's looking at HPS/Healing done numbers for a fight that a raid's well beyond."Cross healing is not heal sniping. Tossing a HoT on a tank or raid member is not heal sniping. Heal sniping is when you go out of your way to heal another healers target before they can do it."Again, I fail to see a situation where this healing isn't beneficial. If you have your assignment covered and you're not running out of mana, you should be tossing out more heals whereever you see a deficit. You paladin example is a perfectly legitimate practice, this concept of owning a health deficit is completely foreign to me. If someone is worried about having a heal "sniped" then the problem is either A. Raid leadership doesn't know how to evaluate healers and puts too much stock in simple HPS/Healing done numbers or B. the person bent out of shape about the "snipe" doesn't know what raid healing is about and puts too much stock in personal HPS/Healing done numbers
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