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9-04-2011 @ 8:53PM
Firelands seems to be out of my reach right now, and that's what's really bugging me. Since cats are the stragglers in this tier of raiding, it's difficult for me to stretch my paws up to the levels of rogues, mages or warriors, who seem to have little to no trouble out-DPSing me even though we're matched for gear (I have 363 ilvl, with my only piece that's below 359 being my 353 helm from ZA). I can pull 15k, which I would think, coupled with my item level, is enough to at least push me into at least the first boss of firelands, but since the standard is so high it makes it really suck.I think I may need a hand here, am I right where I should be for DPS for my current gearset? Am I too low, or do I need better gear? My rotation generally looks like this.*fight starts*Feral Charge - ImprovedRavage (free)MangleRakeRip (5 points usually)MangleRakeTiger's FuryMangleFerocious Bite (5 points again)This will continue for a while until I switch targets, at which point I burn my energy and unleash my best Rip or Savage Roar on my target. Whenever I manage to catch them, I use my clearcasting procs on Shreds, and after a target gets below 25%, I don't renew Rip unless it falls off, I just Ferocious Bite, thanks to Blood In The Water. Can someone give me a hand with this? What am I doing wrong, what am I doing right, how can I change my rotation, what priority to certain attacks have over others, all that good stuff. Thanks!
9-04-2011 @ 9:07PM
Shred!Mangle is for keeping up the debuff, and for when you can't get behind a target.Rip greatly out-powers savage roar, but after its up, you're going to want to keep roar up. It's called "bite-weaving" because the ability to sometimes weave in a 3-5 pt bite into the rotation, outside of berserk, while keeping rip and roar up is a trick.Also, tiger's fury applies to bleeds, put it up before that first rip.
9-04-2011 @ 9:53PM
Make sure to have a 3 stack of Feral Faeire Fire up as well if you're in a raid where the debuff isn't being applied. I don't know what your glyphs are, but the basic standard for feral are: Rip, Berserk, and Shred.
9-04-2011 @ 10:22PM
Here's an opener trick:Feral Charge - ImprovedMangleRakeSavage Roar(energy is now almost @ zero)Tiger's FuryRavage (STILL FREE due to how long the buff lasts -- but NOW GETS TF DAMAGE INCREASE!!)Shredx2Rip(TF ends sometime later...)It doesn't get rip up as fast, but it gets Savage roar up, buffs your initial ravage/shred dmg (I've had ravage crit for > 50k) with TF, and gets the 1st rip up with tiger's fury without wasting any energy.If you feel confident that your tank can hold it (and with 500% threat... they should unless they are asleep...) and you aren't saving it for a special burn phase that comes before 3 mins into the fight, you can put Berserk right after that tiger's fury and watch your dps shoot sky high.Also, as others have said, only use mangle to keep up the debuff (and if you have an arms? warrior or bear tank, you NEVER need to use it) or if there is some GOOD reason you can't get to the side or behind a boss...One more thing. There is an addon I recommend to EVERYONE having trouble with their rotation: Ovale.It doesn't know EVERYTHING, but it is very good at telling you what spell/ability you should use next (assuming a Patchwerk like fight -- there are times to do things other than what it says due to mechanics and such).
9-05-2011 @ 5:50AM
@NoahYou need to make sure to apply John Madden after rake but before rake and just before TF is almost on cool down but not before you click your heals three times and look behind the curtain.Hope that helps!
9-05-2011 @ 10:56AM
Macro FC, FFF and Ravage! in the same button:#showtooltip Feral Charge(Cat Form)/castsequence reset=10 Faerie Fire (Feral), Ravage(Cat Form)/castsequence reset=10 Feral Charge(Cat Form)With this, I can apply FFF while Charging and then I just press the button again to Ravage! If Ravage! is on cooldown it'll just apply FFF, but I prefer to use another button for that.So what I do is:FC/FFFMangleRakeShredTFRavage! (will be a crit if target is over 80%)5P RipThen build up 5 CP with SHRED to get up Savage RoarAfter that you have to adapt to the situation, always keeping up Rip, Rake and SR. Run out and FC again to Ravage! if you have time and all debuffs are up, and use 5CP FB only and only if everything is up and you have energy to spare. At 25% forget about SR, just make sure you have Manlge, Rake and Rip on the target, build CP with SHRED and FB to refresh Rip. Even a 1CP Bite is good, the point is to keep Rip up.And remeber to ALWAYS build extra CP with SHRED. Only use Mangle if you can't get behind the target or the Mangle debuff if about to wear off.Notes: Tiger's Fury (TF) Increases Bleed damage and Ravage! damage.Savage Roar increases everything, but the time to build up the initial SR and then put up everything else is not worth it. You can try it, but most of the times you have to move or do some other thing before you get the chance to put up a 5CP Rip in the opening cycle, so leave SR for the second CP cycle. First thing is to put Rip ASAP.
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