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9-08-2011 @ 2:17PM
11. Running like a mad man grabbing all adds on a desperate bear run.12. Leaving group after the inevitable wipe when he attempted to tank ALL the kitties.13. Calling you a noob if, in spite of hes reckless parade of desire, you make the bear run and out roll him on the bear.I'm not usually a troll but this one hits close to my heart. Tanks this days want that stupid bear so bad that I tend to forget that they are part of the good guys.
9-08-2011 @ 2:19PM
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9-08-2011 @ 2:26PM
I don't understand everyone's fascination with that mount. It's well on it's way to becoming the next Bronze Drake as I already see 5 or 6 people AFK in orgrimmar at any given minute as it is.
9-08-2011 @ 2:27PM
9. Realizing you skipped to 11.10. Adding 9 and 10.
9-08-2011 @ 3:33PM
Silly floating head, everyone knows the advantages of turning it to 11.
9-08-2011 @ 5:04PM
You got it all wrong (cutaia).9. Swearing Profusely (on or off Vent, Mumble, or Team Speak) about the DPS10. Drinking Heavily
9-08-2011 @ 5:24PM
The original comment here is a good insight to have.I am an ilvl 375 Paladin tank and I have my war bear. However, I still run trolls every week to top off valor points because we are only 5/7 in Firelands.Whenever I run, I have someone wanting to hurry up for the bear. That's OK - I know how to pull the place, and where I can stop to let the healer get mana. But it's stressful, and I have to be very careful what I am doing and how I am budgeting cooldowns.I would actually prefer it to be a nice easy run that I can pretty much auto-pilot through to get my valor. I like it best when a group has failed to get the bear and people rage-quit so I come in with only 2 or 3 bosses to go. Quick, easy, stress-free valor for me.I am more than happy to be "one of the good guys" and let the DPS get their own damn bears. It's refreshing for me to know that it's OK to do that - that I don't have to go flat-out every time I go in there.Tanks feel pressure to go-go-go and have since Wrath. If we don't, DPS get shirty and start pulling groups for us, which, believe me, is far worse than the tank hurrying. Tanks do things like making sure the healer has mana - DPS don't care.But if I have your OK to be "one of the good guys" and have the DPS get bent out of shape, pull groups, abuse me for being a Bad Tank, and inevitably rage-quit as the timer expires, that makes me feel better.
9-08-2011 @ 6:05PM
That's probably a bit more passive-aggressive that I wanted to come off.Suffice to say that often the tank is responding to a stated or implied urgency form the rest of the party to help them get their bears.At the start of a new run, everyone is optimistic that this time they might get a bear. If a tank was to pull leisurely, he would be pelted with verbal rubbish. Everyone who randoms into ZA will move as fast as they possibly can so as not to be the weak link in the chain and hence the subject of abuse when the run fails.I make every effort to do that responsibly, but my point is that I have a bear so I don't care if we make the timer or not - I move quickly because the group requires it. If I wait for the healer to have full mana to begin every pull, it's me who cops the abuse, not the healer.ZA groups want to run quickly, which means extra pressure for tanks and healers, and the reality of it is if either can't keep up with the required pull rate, there will be grief, and most often is it directed at the tank even if it is an under-geared healer that the tank needs to wait for.
9-08-2011 @ 6:10PM
Silly me. If a bear run happens, it happens. Never really rush, quick steady pulls and if there's enough boss DPS, we get it. If not, oh well. I rarely queue on DPS toon -- always heals or tank and I always pass on the bear. I just don't see what the huge deal is. It's an ugly badly tinted ground mount that everyone and their grandma will soon have taking up space in their inventories.
9-08-2011 @ 6:11PM
People should really discuss this before opening the gate. The timer doesn't start til you do. I enjoy the challenge of an inevitably failed bear run (I've never even rolled on it) as a healer, but I'm not gonna be mad if someone doesn't want to. It's like optional bosses, or achievements. Also noone ever does the right order of boss pulls for the bear (hint: one of the bosses doesn't increase your time remaining when you kill him), so I don't know why they bother.
9-09-2011 @ 1:12AM
I don't know if it's just me, but whenever ZA pops, I always feel guilty if I don't try for the bear for the sake of everyone else. Probably why I queue less and less for the troll dungeons and just go normal heroics.
9-13-2011 @ 9:51AM
Don't ever feel guilty about not going for the bear. The way gear stands right now, you'll probably only stand a good chance at a bear in a guild run, or at least an organized run. It's not a Bronze Drake quite yet.And yet, it's always those who are juuust barely geared enough to squeak into ZA who pipe up "Bear run?" as soon as they load in. I'm of a similar mindset as above. If we get it, we get it; but I'm not gonna rush around like a headless chicken and chance wipes for it. And if we have a low dps in the party or a just-geared-enough healer (or tank, on the offchance I'm not tanking) no I'm not voting to kick them so we can get someone "geared" for a bear run. Random is random. You want a bear, get the group together yourself, or wait for 4.3 when it probably will be te new Bronze Drake.
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