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9-09-2011 @ 5:58PM
We have a very (very? Extremely, disproportionately, horrifically) bad tank in our raids at times. He taunts off our other (good!) tank all the time, even when he has debuffs of death and doom that mean our other tank NEEDS to be tanking, he never uses cooldowns, loses aggro (he once lost a boss to healing aggro from our resto shammy), delivers awful DPS when it matters, blames the healers for dying, and has been roasted in every kind of fire there is - he's ready to be served up well-done with a side of fries. He's also the only person in the history of WoW to get hit by Bethilac's "knockback" and go flying through a hole on her web.We're not exactly short on tanks, but we currently work on rotation to get people into raids. The real issue we have is that he won't listen to any advice. He gets defensive, blames everyone from the healers to the DPS to fluffy the wonder sheep for his mistakes, and insists he's our best tank. Dealing with a tank who is poorly performing is one thing, but how do you deal with a tank who's outright delusional?
9-09-2011 @ 6:09PM
Bench him. If you're not hurting for tanks, then why are you hamstringing yourself by carrying him?
9-09-2011 @ 6:52PM
Have to agree with DragonFireKai. Explain precisely the mistakes he's made, then bench him until he agrees to training with a guild group.THEN form a guild group with at least one player who can provide specific instruction in his class, and take the BadTank into 5-mans where you can practice particular tactics, situations, and responses. Doesn't even have to be heroics, if the boss has the mechanic in normal mode. Explain the specific mechanic you're wanting him to show.You (the raid leader, "class boss", officer) are proving that you (the raid) are committed to either letting the tank show that he can hack it, or to train him until he can. Who knows, he might be right.This is, of course, a high maintenance solution, but it might well prevent drama. And at the least, in a 5-man group, you're burning the time of only 4 guildies intstead of 9 or 24.If he won't take advice, and is not willing to prove that he is right in an environment where he's doing less collateral damage, it's time for "Punt, bounce, bounce".From my own tanking viewpoint, the important question is not "whose fault was that?" It is "what can I personally do to make this work?"
9-10-2011 @ 1:27PM
We also have a rotation system, but I refuse to force the rest of the raid to suffer because these two won't get it together. I've been known, in extreme cases, to bench an offending tank and pug the spot. We're a very casual and relaxed guild, but playing in a reasonable way is more about respect to the other 9 guys who've rearranged their schedules to get together for the evening.
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