Im sorry but what the hell are you talking about? if your talking about his dungeons are hard blog post i dont think he meant anything to do with the heigan dance.

during wrath ghostcrawler was still posting on the forums and as far as i know he wasnt working for blizzard in vanilla( maybe he was but no members of the dev team posted on the forums during vanilla really)

"the Heigan "dance" looks idiotic"

It looks idiotic, sure. But until you've actually done it, as your remark indicates you have not, you might not appreciate exactly what it entailed. It's one of the most entertaining, and for me, most memorable encounters I have ever run across.

Heigan's dance (both vanilla and Wrath) will forever be one of the most fun and enjoyable parts of a boss encounter. I'm actually disappointed that SamLowry feels the way he does, but hey...such is life. The entirety of the boss fight actually provided for a brief moment of levity in a fairly punishing raid at the time. Maybe Sam, you'll see it for what it was or maybe not but as a wise novelist once said, "By dint of railing at idiots, one runs the risk of becoming an idiot oneself."

Might want to sharpen those reading skills, Veggie--I never said GC worked on Heigan, but his approval, nay expectation, of "dancing" indicated he wanted more of the same.

Looks like raiders are trying to maintain an exclusive, clubby feel to their chosen profession by patting each other on the back for knowing idiotic dance moves when the rest of us would rather be fighting.

I was strictly a casual raider in Wrath, and I loved Heigan.

Raids should require more than just being able to play your class well; reacting to your environment, understanding positioning, and yes, movement, are what make raids raids.

In fact, one of the things I liked best about the Cat heroics was that it seemed the design was putting more raid-like mechanics into 5 mans.

If every fight was a simple tank and spank, raids would be as dull as rep grinding. Believe me, I love what Blizzard's doing to make raiding more accessible, but no matter the difficultly level, raids should keep you on your toes.

I got back into the game and started playing seriously just before Wrath came out, so by the time I was 80, Naxx 25 was my first raid ever. I remember getting to Heigan and thinking the entire fight was awesome with the running about and avoiding blasts of acid, and it didn't hurt that we had the entire fight synced up to "Canned Heat" over vent. (It matches up extremely well with the timing)

What stuck with me and made me feel better about raiding was that we were actually doing something! Most of the boss fights I'd seen before were all about DPS standing there and DPSing, while the healer and tank did their thing. I would hate it if every single raid boss was like that. The running around, dealing with positioning, and knowing that you're directly responsible for your own survival and the raid's success (rather than just helping make numbers go down faster) is what I loved about it.

We did a guild run of Naxx 25 the other day, and even at 85, I still insisted on running the dance for old times sake. :)

Yeah, let's add dancing even to regular-level instances like Throne of Tides, where if you can't move and attack at the same time then you're either useless or dead.

Yep, great idea, like we need even more fire to stand in.

@SamLowry

You seem downright outraged at the idea of heavy movement fights, which I don't understand. It's not like you defeat a boss by running circles around him until he's so dizzy he falls down and drops purples; you still have to find time to do sufficient DPS in between avoiding abilities. Your rather vitriolic reaction to the idea of a "dance" or avoiding standing in fire really conveys the idea that you're just flat out bad at doing it. That may not be true, but that's how it reads.

There are already a lot of complaints about the "dumbing down" of raid encounters, and you seem to be arguing that it should go even further, until all you have to do to down a raid boss is stand there and stab/shoot/cast at it.

You are correct, I hate heavy movement fights. I keep almost every bit of my attention on my ability buttons to see which cooldown is expiring next so I can click it...and usually don't notice I'm standing in some new unexpected fire until my death notification dings.

It would be nice of Blizz gave us a notification before that, a little bell or some blinking to let us know our health is dropping like a stone. And Blizz would have to supply this one, since my laptop won't let me install addons.

So you;re a bad and complaining that blizzard doesn't cater to baddies like you.

Ok baddy mc bad bad have fun dying in regular TotT because you;re so bad.