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9-21-2011 @ 6:38PM
My guild is in an awkward middle. We're not ultra hardcore, raiding 5 hours, 6 days a week, but we're not at the more casual end either. I think I remember reading (or hearing?) that they said they were nerfing it because a lot of the top guilds have now cleared everything.We managed to get 6/7 heroic before the nerfs, and I have to say I'm a bit sad Raggy was nerfed before we actually started getting down to progressing on him. I know I'm in the minority here but tonight (UK, so reset night), we managed to clear every boss bar the firelord, on heroic, with time to spare: all of them seemed a cake walk compared to before and it seemed like all the challenge and fun had been sucked uncerimoniously from the encounters. Where before they felt so well tuned (highly subjective, I know) now they were simply boring.Don't get me wrong, I'm really really pleased that guys and gals that don't have a million hours a week to raid will now get to see all of firelands, while the content is still current. To many of my friends in other guilds this will be a blessing and they'll get to experience the thrills of the fights just like I could, which I think is 100% right.My only qualms is that it just feels so sudden and stark a nerf, while the next patch isnt even on the PTR yet. Maybe a toggle-able ICC sort of gradually rising buff would've been more apropriate, then at least different groups can customise their preferred difficulty.I dont really know what Im trying to say. Just my two different thoughts: on the one hand, joy for those that can experience FL now and not later, and sadness for those that now don't really have much to work on, with no new patch in sight. Good luck, whichever one you are :)
9-21-2011 @ 6:54PM
You got 6/7 on heroic? Wow! You are an excellent raider my friend! I think you're not giving yourself enough credit.MY guild is noncasual / non hardcore, and we're not at that level. hehe.Cheers! I mean it!
9-21-2011 @ 7:11PM
Hehe thanks Matthew. I think the "non casual / non hardcore" term is employed by a very wide range of guilds, probably in shameful truth to avoid the stigmas of either "Ooh Casual, you can't move out of fire, play 10 minutes a week, don't really care about the game and have no skill!" or "Ooh Hardcore, you raid 100 hours a week, have no life, live in your parent's basement and hate people that can't live up to your standards!".We do 3 hours, four nights a week with the aim of clearing hard mode content, fyi :)
9-21-2011 @ 7:53PM
Oh you're not ultra hardcore? So I guess you only raid 5 days a week for 4 hours a night?Seriously tho...if you're 6/7 HM before the nerfs ur guild is pretty damn hardcore. The best guilds on my server have only recently gotten 6/7.
9-22-2011 @ 2:23AM
"We're not ultra hardcore, raiding 5 hours, 6 days a week, but we're not at the more casual end either."Wait, is that 5 hours spread over 6 days (casual) or 30 hours a week (5 on each 6 days)? Because the latter would pretty much qualify you for ultra hardcore. O.o
9-22-2011 @ 5:42AM
Ohhhh >.< only just saw how it could be misinterpreted. I meant we're not ultra hardcore, wherein a hardcore guild would raid 5 hours a night, 6 nights a week, so 30 hours.
9-22-2011 @ 10:41AM
@ArizorFirst off, the only time the "ultra Hardcore" guild raid like that is when racing for world/region/server firsts. I know for a fact that Premonition was going for 24 hours day 1 and at least 12 hour for the next few days after Cata came out (being a Sen'jin native you get to see how crazy they are sometimes when it comes to this stuff) but after that they raid only about 2 nights a week for a couple hours, and are rarely on other than that unless they are leveling alts or farming for raids.Secondly, at 6/7H you are anything but casual. Raiding 3 hours a night, 4 days a week is the very definition of Hardcore. My guild raids more than that, but we're also raiding T11 content to gear people up for Firelands, we really only spend about 4-5 hours TOTAL a week. No, we're not in Heroic modes, no we haven't killed Ragnaros, but we don't screw around in there either. IIRC the guild was 4/7 Firelands when half of the raiders either left the guild or quit WoW altogether (having just rerolled on the new server after it happened).Gratz on 6/7H though, I hear Heroic Ragnaros took the biggest beating of all.
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