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9-23-2011 @ 12:19PM
And they wonder why enhancement shaman are so damn angry. Legendary daggers, dragon wings, epic screenshot potential. Ugh.
9-23-2011 @ 12:21PM
SLAP IN THE FACE!!!1!
9-23-2011 @ 12:50PM
9-23-2011 @ 1:21PM
Wait, people still play enhancement? Resto FTMFW!
9-23-2011 @ 1:32PM
Yes, people still play enchancement. Yes, we are the neglected child of wow. Yes we enjoy and love our spec. Yes descent weapons are few and far between. Yes, we are probably one of, if not THE, true minorities in the game. No, we are probably never going to see a true legendary costume made for us.Yes it sucks sharing gear with a class that has no need for expertise, which we must cap. Have minimal need for hit, we have spell hit cap. Loves haste and crit (depending on the spec one more than the other) which we loath. And likes mastery in optimal doses, which we cant get enough off and most reforge into it like there is no tomorrow.Playing enhancement is fun. Gearing as an enhancement shocks.
9-23-2011 @ 1:53PM
It'd appear that slightly more people play enhancement than rogues since rogues got a legendary and we didnt. The only reason I can think of for rogues to get a legendary is blizzard trying to get more people to play rogues. Why else would they give rogues a legendary when it doesnt even fit in the current lore? At least Shaman have Thrall that's one of the major characters in the expansion. It really feels like Blizzard is trying to stop people from playing enhancement.It was bad enough that we had to constantly get weak stats on our gear because of hunters and never get picked in pugs because we're melee but now they even decide not to give us access to a legendary. Next week they'll announce that they're removing our access to Sulfuras.
9-23-2011 @ 3:13PM
You guys are right; we really are the neglected stepchildren of DPS. But you know, we should take pride in that. I've yet to meet another melee raider who can out-dps me. They may take our weapons, they may give us haste and crit, but they can never ... take ... OUR UBERNESS!Also, I'll never play anything but Enhance just to stick it to Blizz.
9-23-2011 @ 3:25PM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand all this "solidarity" over a spec of a class in a video game. Just seems like there would be more...meaningful things to feel bad about in this world. o_O
9-23-2011 @ 3:34PM
@LoopSpoken like someone who's never had the pain of raiding as enhance. I love the enhancement playstyle. Always have. I've got two raiding enhancement shaman and it's always a severe pain to get them geared up. I'm not feeling bad about it or whatever, I just recognize that gearing as enhance has always presented certain challenges above and beyond what some other specs have to face. Feeling bad about it has nothing to do with it; my shaman's gear has been a handicap I've had to face for three expansions now and it harms my raid team. I constantly have to outperform my gear which means I have to be as close to perfect as possible when raiding.Also, the enhancement community (and there's no other way to put it; we are a close-knit community) is more than a little weary of feeling left out in the cold in every iteration of WoW. I consistently out-perform my melee brethren but rarely get to taste the sweet purple rewards of my labor.Sorry if our general weariness bothers you, but unless you've walked a mile in our shaman-y shoes, then you can't really begin to understand. Enhance have it tough ... but we're tougher. So all my orcish, troll, tauren, dwarven, goblin, and spacegoat brothers and sisters, stand tall! We won't let them beat us!
9-23-2011 @ 3:38PM
It isn't even that enhance shaman have stupid gear requirements when sharing gear. It is that at every turn the devs make it harder. An off-hand for enhance before Brewfest? 2% drop on 22 mobs or on Nef. Of course rogues had dagger off of the golum council and wanted that Nef weapon too. Molten front had a sword and a dagger pattern. No axe, mace or fist. It's like they go out of their way to exclude enhance shaman.
9-23-2011 @ 4:05PM
Seeing this just makes me even more disheartened.Ah well. I do agree though, enhancement shaman are among the most closely knit and helpful players in the game to each other. I'm always happy to help others delving into the spec, and swap tips / theories / tweaks with others. I'm not sure it's the same with other classes / specs. To ANYONE that says "Oh just switch specs..." ...NO. We choose enhance because no other class/spec in this games offers our playstyle. Not a one. Why is it okay for any other class to complain when their favorite spec / playstyle lags behind in competitiveness, but we're told to switch to elemental or drop DPS altogether and heal.No.We're not asking for too much. We're asking for a bit of consideration when it comes to gear design and playability. And I'm sick of being told to suck it up and deal with it.
9-23-2011 @ 4:06PM
"Why else would they give rogues a legendary when it doesnt even fit in the current lore?"Er. Yes it does. The daggers come from the Black Dragonflight. They are called the "Fangs of the Father." They might literally be Deathwing's teeth. Not only the end boss of the next raid, but of the entire expansion.That counts as "current lore."
9-23-2011 @ 4:14PM
@SnarkyAmen, brother. I get so tired of people saying, "Well, just switch to Elemental, it's better anyways." And I'm always flabbergasted because it just simply isn't the case. As Enhancement, I can demolish everyone except a well-geared mage, warlock, or boomkin, and that's considering that it's an absolute nightmare to find gear upgrades. I'd support the decision to switch specs if Enhancement wasn't viable, but even with low gear levels, Enhancement is one of the most powerful melee specs out there, not to mention all the utility we bring to the raid.It's just so frustrating to explain to non-shaman. They just don't get it. :(
9-23-2011 @ 5:16PM
@SkarnThe exact same name could easily fit a set of axes or fist weapons. When I say it doesnt fit the lore is that the lore really doesnt talk about any well known rogue in the expansion. Dragons arent really known for their stealth. Especially Deathwing that just destroyed SW to grab a couple of dragon heads. Thrall is a Shaman and is very important in the expansion Lore. The Druids are well represented with the new raid centering around that class. The Mages are also well represented with the blue dragonflight and they received a legendary weapon that is also useable by any other spell casting class.There's just no reason for Rogues to be chosen as the sole bearers of a legendary weapon except for a misguided attempt by blizzard to boost the number of rogues in the game.
9-23-2011 @ 5:36PM
So Enhancement Shaman are uber *despite* gearing difficulties?And now you want Legendaries to go with it?Okay.
9-23-2011 @ 5:47PM
Let me give you a little bit of my history, before you try continuing to convince me that I "just don't understand":I played a Fury Warrior in Vanilla.I *raided* as a Fury Warrior in Vanilla.I *raided* and *kicked ass* as a Fury Warrior in Vanilla, while wearing a mix of plate, mail, and leather, which included quite a few blues that I wouldn't upgrade because it risked dropping my +Hit%, which easily trumped most stats. I grinded the living hell out of dungeons for some of the most obtuse pieces of equipment...for raiding.I had to frequently *avoid using my primary move* - Heroic Strike - because it generated high threat *on top of* it's normal damage threat. I had to use a high-cost AoE - Cleave - in it's place so that I wouldn't get smeared all over the floor.I intentionally nerfed myself at almost every corner in order to - if this makes any sense - become the top DPS for our whole raid.I still think you're over-reacting.
9-23-2011 @ 5:53PM
@LoopAre you just being purposefully ignorant and trollish? Enhancement shaman don't deserve legendaries because we are uber. We are uber because we are competitive despite our obvious gearing difficulties. It'd be nice not to have to play at my absolute perfect peak every single damn time I raid. My margin for error is nonexistent. I can make zero mistakes. If I make a mistake, my raid will suffer greatly since my DPS will nose-dive. Shaman players know exactly what I'm talking about. Again, if you haven't raided as an enhancement shaman, you have no friggin' idea how difficult it is. Please stop trolling us with your ignorance of this subject. Go faceroll whatever class you prefer and leave us alone.
9-23-2011 @ 6:10PM
"When I say it doesnt fit the lore is that the lore really doesnt talk about any well known rogue in the expansion."So? Why does that matter?Sulfuras and Thunderfury had nothing to do with warriors, paladins, rogues or shaman. Atiesh did relate well to mages...but not druids or priests. Medivh also had zero part in Vanilla WoW. Karazhan wasn't added to the game until BC! The Warglaives came from the main character in BC, Illidan. Yet he wasn't a warrior or rogue. In lore he was more of a mage! Thori'dal has...no story whatsoever. I hate that thing more and more each expansion.Wrath of the Lich King wasn't about Titans or maces or healers, yet that's what Val'anyr involved. Shadowmourne is the only legendary weapon that references a well-known class that was also an important figure in the expansion...yet that weapon was not just for DKs, but warriors and paladins too. Dragonwrath has zip to do with the Cataclysm and Deathwing has no relationship to any sort of caster eithier.Where did this idea come from that a legendary has to relate to the "primary lore class" of the expansion? Just from Shadowmourne? You are using a single legendary as the basis for your entire argument? That's pretty shaky ground. You're right, the "Fangs of the Father" could have been swords or axes too, but Blizzard decided to make them daggers. The lore is that a black dragon reaches out to rogues to help him achieve his goals. He asks for help from rogues because he knows they just don't care. They are assassins and don't hesitate to do shady stuff if it profits them. That makes a great deal more lore sense than shaman doing the same thing. The lore around the daggers is fine.
9-23-2011 @ 8:21PM
Enhance are uber and now you want a legendary...This was said about the 4.2 changes by the enhance columnist: " Thanks to all the nerfs the other classes got, we should be middle of the pack now."When the best news you get about a patch is that the other classes are getting a nerf so you can now compete, you are not uber.
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