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9-27-2011 @ 5:04PM
A great story, and her change in personality makes much more sense now.And she must die. I knew she'd crossed a line when she began using the plague as freely as she has been, and had been raising new forsaken from those who oppose her. She HAS become exactly what she hated, she's lashing out at the world in terror. She's done dark deeds and had a taste of the rewards they've earned her in the beyond, and she's willing to do anything to forestall that. She doesn't care about the Forsaken, she just doesn't want to go back.She's a monster now.
9-27-2011 @ 5:09PM
Hands up everyone who saw this comment coming. /handup
9-27-2011 @ 5:19PM
Oh, she is totally a monster! And that's nothing new. I've always seen the Horde as "the monsters" and that is why I mainly play the Horde. Horde characters are pretty interesting to me.
9-27-2011 @ 5:29PM
I would say it is more than that. It isn't her punishment for her deeds that sent her to the darkness. She's undead. Read what happened to her again. The very act of ripping her away from the Light after her death tore her should apart in some manner. Part of her soul is still there, the part that is left can't find it's way back and can't join with it anymore. And this is what awaits ALL forsaken and Death Knights. They don't get to rest when they finally die. They see only Darkness. That's the wort thing about Necromancy in this universe. It robs you of your connection to the light and a part of your soul. Sylvanas isn't just making more Forsaken to fill the ranks in wars. She's making sure she's not the only one there when the Darkness takes her. She's terrified because she knows without a single iota of doubt, she's in for eternal torment.
9-27-2011 @ 5:31PM
I hate auto-correct almost as much as the lack of AN EFFING EDIT BUTTONsoul. Worst. Gah
9-27-2011 @ 6:03PM
Still, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers.
9-27-2011 @ 6:22PM
While I can see why I got the downvoting, I feel I didn't explain myself well. This is not delighting in the fact that she's suffering, it's not "Alliance-Rawr/Horde-Bleh."I pity her. She's terrified, but instead of seeking redemption, she's condemning other people, she's using the Forsaken AGAIN, this time as a shield between her and the void, instead of an arrow aimed at Arthas.I disagree that this is what awaits all forsaken and Death Knights. We don't KNOW what awaits them. The only two undead who's "afterlife" we've seen glimpses of were Arthas and Sylvanas. And while Sylvanas is strong, cunning, and a more than worthy warrior, she uses people. She betrays alliances. She lies, and manipulates, and devices. She may not be evil, but she's quite dark.What does she do as soon as her soul is pulled from that horrid darkness? Search for redemption? Work to improve the world? Ah. No, she chooses to kill and corrupt. There is a new Lich King, and yet SHE is the one spreading the effects of plague and undeath. The effects of Fel magic and Necromancy are no reason. Look to the Broken. They may not be able to find the Light as easily as they once did, but they find another way. Crusader Bridenbrad did not forsake the Light, and was not forsaken, even though he was consumed by the plague.
9-27-2011 @ 7:42PM
But they (the broken) lost their connection to the light, not had their souls ripped from their bodies then forcibly brought back. Its like saying, Pull the fish out of water, but then put him in a fishbowl is the same as harpoon a fish out of water, through the heart, and then put him in the fishbowl, he'll be fine.And as for that one guy, yeah, he's the exception to the rule. So devote was he that the light did not forsake him. Meaning he was so heavenly minded he was no earthly good, how else did he get killed by the lich king with that much power at his hands.
9-27-2011 @ 8:21PM
First, I'd just like to say that the story established something which was very clear to me: Sylvanas is the motivation of the Forsaken. Without her, they'll follow Garrosh or anyone quickly. They have an incredibly strong will... and I guess "purpose" would be a better word. But with Arthas dead, they need a purpose. Sylvanas's purpose is to not die. The purpose she gives the Forsaken is claiming their place in the world. Without her, they would surely die... as we were shown.But I also have to point out that none of your comparisons are relevant. This isn't like the Broken, who got cut off from the light but could work with the elemental spirits. Nor is it like Bridenbrad, who was plagued but not yet undead. These people died. In some way, their souls rejoined the Light. What's left... is a shadow of that person who had nothing to live for but revenge. Necromancy perverts both the body and the soul. Just look at the Scourge. If uncontrolled by the Lich King, they would become an unstoppable force of destruction. But when the Forsaken broke free, Sylvanas was the one who took control. I see "Lich Queen" used as a title for her often... Maybe that's true, but she resembles Bolvar, not Arthas. She's channeling all the destructive power of the Forsaken and using it at her own will. If one of those many Light-wielding lazyasses were to go help her find a kinder purpose in unlife, she could get the Forsaken to do it.
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