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9-29-2011 @ 10:02PM
I'm very disappointed that this won't include older raids right at the get go. It would have been an amazing complimentary feature to go with transmogrification. I would have sat and queued for weeks collecting previous tier gear for every alt, and I suspect (not exaggerating) a million other people would have as well; in addition to running the current tier of content.I might have to write a post about this... big opportunity lost, and IMO, at the wrong time given the release of SW:TOR (not meaning to sound like "one of those neyseighers").I really hope they follow through and open up the old raids later.
9-29-2011 @ 10:10PM
This. I would run Hyjal, BT, etc. like a mfker to get my vanity pieces. This version of the raid finder, meanwhile, is giving me PTSD flashbacks. The douchebaggery in LFR will be /off the scale/.
9-29-2011 @ 10:15PM
They could probably add some of the older raids to the dungeon finder right now and be done with it. I'm sure you could run most of the old content easily with a well geared 5 man dungeon group.They should retune the old raids for level 85's if they do put them into the Raid Finder.
9-29-2011 @ 10:31PM
They did say they want to add more- perhaps before it's done on the PTR?
9-29-2011 @ 10:30PM
"This is also the first rollout of the feature and we decided to start things simple, rather than potentially delay the feature's introduction." This is likely the biggest reason they didn't include any old raids.
9-29-2011 @ 10:46PM
I dont think they know what they're sitting on. I love the line they give "If this proves popular."Good stuff.
9-29-2011 @ 11:06PM
I'm honestly not sure why you'd assume it would've included pre-cata raids, given that it looks to be a tool for greater raid accessibility to current tier content more than anything and using it as a tool for gathering vanity gear strikes me as counter to purpose. I'll admit to being a little suprised it doesn't include older raids from the current expansion but given the ease of forming a group for pre-cata raids at the moment, or ever if it didn't obviously consist of you gearing up your level 70 twink, and how few people you actually need, it strikes me that the opportunity cost lost is outweighed by the effort involved.
9-29-2011 @ 11:16PM
TBH, I can see this being a tech thing. It's a pretty big change, and going back and doing all the raids? Huge amount of work. Put it in for one raid, use that as a focus test, then expand to the rest once the live bug testing period has happened is how I'd do it too. That said, it could just as easily go the way of the dance studio, at which point I will gladly join in the pitchforking.I full expect the 5.0 wrap up/cross over patch, which sounds like a non-raid content patch, to hit December, and the rest of the raids will come out with it. They would be mad not to.
9-29-2011 @ 11:21PM
Don't you think it would've made it FAR too easy to do old raids? When you group up 25 85's to do a 60 raid, or whatever. Plus, drops would be considerably tougher to get than it would be if you did an older raid with a 5-man group. They probably just haven't gotten it down to the point where the Raid Finder would select a certain number of people to match an ideal difficulty level for an older raid.
9-29-2011 @ 11:43PM
The problem with that question, Philster is that the answer in a lot of cases is 'One unless there is something stupid'. With the exception of the start of BWL and maybe chess, any class can pretty easily solo stuff up until the last couple of fights SSC/TK. Then you might need an actual tank and heals. Or a tank that can self heal.
9-30-2011 @ 12:32AM
While, I'm not surprised by the exclusion of pre-Cata raids, I was desperately let down finding out BWD, BoT, etc aren't available through it.
9-30-2011 @ 1:04AM
And what if the dark moon faire offers tier sets 1-6? How often would you run old raids then? Until it all rolls out we don't know yet. So take a deep breath and wait for more info :)
9-30-2011 @ 1:36AM
Even if they did, Adam, there's always been a level cap after which you could no longer queue up for old dungeons. As an 85, if I want something from Scarlet Monastery, I have to walk in and get it. I can't queue for SM. And that's how it should be, imo. Plenty of times at 70 I can remember being annoyed when someone queues up with their level 80 buddy and what should have been a fun run became a boring pull-through. So even if old raids were added, don't expect to be able to queue for SWP on your level 85.
9-30-2011 @ 1:46AM
@Adam:I think what you just described would be a return to the permanent state of "Instance server not responding".I imagine there is a reason they don't want a million people queuing constantly for raids that would take them 20 minutes to run, until they have verified the stability of the system
9-30-2011 @ 11:54AM
@Murdertime:Good luck soloing Vashj. That has nothing to do with needing a tank or heals, the mechanics of the fight are what prevent it.It's the same reason BWL isn't "soloable", despite being a level 60 raid. Though at least with SSC, you can clear everything up to the end.
9-30-2011 @ 2:16PM
@Kylenne,Actually, Vashj may be soloable now. The cores no longer root you, so if you can keep the adds under control and get the cores before her damage buff gets too high, it's possible.
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