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9-30-2011 @ 1:52PM
Its probably a good thing that tanks don't have extra control (in 5-mans), such as special kick button that required no vote. Some tanks (not all, by any means) already come into groups feeling entitled. They're not always the "leader" (but, as mentioned before, does anyone really know/care who that leader person is), but these entitled tanks feel (and say LOUDLY) that they should get whatever they want just handed over because they are the tank. I've seen it mostly in instances where a mount drops, tank will say "If the mount drops, its mine because I'm the tank." Now, no (LFD) group ever goes for that. Ever. If tanks were default leaders that had special abilities to kick with no vote, anyone that disagreed with that statement could be kicked. For no reason other than disagreeing with said tank over something that has a 1% drop rate and probably not be an issue anyway.An example of this happened to me twice (ironically with the same tank considering I always hit the random button) in Utgarde, first time nothing was said (I didn't even know a mount drop was on the loot table) until after the mount dropped and everyone rolled and my friend won the blue drake. Tank threw a hissy fit demanding she hand it over, and yelling all kinds of death wishes at her.. resulting in him getting kicked. A week or so later, I'm randoming with the same friend, and we get this guy again who starts off the run all capslock "IF THE MOUNT DROPS ITS MINE CAUSE I"M THE TANK AND YOU CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT ME SO ITS MINE!!!". So, of course everyone in the group says no, we roll, if you win fine. Yadda yadda. He kept at it, caplocky and bitchy, till he got kicked before we even got to the boss that drops the drake.I know raids are different, and guilds have their own loot rules and whatnot as to how things are distributed. And thats fine. It seems LFR is doing something to make sure that everyone has a shot at getting something. They've also taken the possible kick abuse away from the leader (who might not be one of the tanks). However, zoning into a 5-man instance thought LFD those rules don't apply (unless of course you're in an all guild member run, then you know).As it is, with the LFD kick vote cooldown, it doesn't really matter. Other than you can tell who kicks a lot and who doesn't. If someone wants to kick someone, and they can't because of a cooldown, they'll say "i'd kick but I can't for 3 hours". And someone else who doesn't have a cooldown will do it. So, yeah.. it keeps that person from kicking someone repeatedly. But if that person runs with a friend, the friend could have no cooldown. Or, just someone else in the group won't have a cooldown, so kicks happen even when they aren't necessary, just because someone wants to be a jerk and someone else in the group agrees to (at least) start a vote.Now, what I kinda wish they would do is show the note to the person being kicked. Granted most people who are going to do the kicking arent going to put anything in there that is constructive, it'd mostly be some kind of profanity/insult. However, to the jerky entitled tank getting kicked, it'd be nice if they got to see the note that was put in as a reason to kick him.
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