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10-04-2011 @ 9:31PM
I like this structure a lot. I hope this is the model for MoP
10-05-2011 @ 12:17AM
The only universal constant is Change. LFR is the big experiment here. If people see these numbers and think "I can get half my weekly VP income from just doing LFR?" It'll push a lot of people into LFR. Depending on the mindset of the people going into LFR, it may go over like a lead balloon -- noob players punished for not understanding mechanics, elitist players manipulating the vote-to-kick system... there's certainly the chance the community will eat itself when such a high number of precious VPs are at stake. Of course, it may all be a mistake to have the VPs only be awarded for completing LFR instead of per-boss. I suppose that puts them in line with Heroic-5s (you only get the VP award for killing the endboss) but with the possibility that the playerbase will grow more hostile, it may not be workable. They could decide that 25 is too many to coordinate for randoms. We could see another large shift in the raiding paradigm with MoP, and that will change how LFR functions, which in turn changes how the Valor/Justice system functions. The most important thing here is that Blizzard will never stop iterating on the system in order to improve the accessibility and challenge of the endgame. When they stop doing that, we know that the game is over.
10-05-2011 @ 12:31AM
Except thatMoP wont be an xpac
10-05-2011 @ 2:22AM
@Mr. CrowWhile it's true half the VP needed for cap can come from LFR, it doesn't mean people will feel they HAVE to go this route. The dungeons all provide the same VP, are in a casuals familiar setting of a 5man, and are frankly quicker than 4 raid bosses. Yes I myself will use the 2 LFR every week for VP but not on every 85 alt. Another thing to note is blizz in making this a 25 man run of random people who may never even play together again. They understand that's a lot to ask a group so they are actually going to tone down the mechanics and simplify fights so these 25 people can finish these 4 bosses. While LFR does open up another window to let flies in it might just end up simply a larger version of the LFD system.
10-05-2011 @ 7:43AM
@ Ballmung"Another thing to note is blizz in making this a 25 man run of random people who may never even play together again."Actually i'm thinking that LFR may very well end the 'I-dnt-know-who-these-ppl-are-but-let's-loot' era. I am a 3-night a week raider with a very organized and structured guild, however I will try this system and every time i get a superb player or players i will immediately add them to my friends list so we can group again each week, thus eventually making a "core" of random good players to tackle those VP's. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I'm hoping this brings back that sense of community that was lost since LFD.
10-05-2011 @ 8:02AM
@Frank-potatoHmm...unless Blizzard allows RealID grouping for LFR (which they haven't confirmed yet) and you're willing to give out your RealID to all those random cross-server people you meet in LFR AND they are willing to share theirs with you...I don't see how your plan is going to work...
10-05-2011 @ 9:07AM
I will use RealID only when Blizzard allows us to choose a name that is not our account name. I.e., only when it stops being RealID and becomes, instead, just a way to easily find other players.Until then, thanks but no thanks. Where I'm concerned, the current RealID is worse than if it didn't exist at all.
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