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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-07-2011 @ 6:28PM
pere4453 said...
Here's an alternative to reading tons of advice posts on the internet to figure out how to run your raids: Run a serious guild with zero tolerance for bads.
Friendship has no place in WoW if you have a good social life outside of the game. Find good players, make it understood that too many mistakes get you kicked, and proceed to dominate the endgame. If people want to make friends with their guildmates, they need to do it on their own time and not the guild's. And if any of those relationships interfere in any way with raiding, everyone involved should be kicked and quickly replaced so progress can continue.
Time is precious and WoW is a video game like any other. No one would tolerate having to idle for an hour in Fallout: New Vegas or Mass Effect, waiting for two NPCs to finish settling their personal drama so they could finally carry on with the game. I don't see why WoW needs to be the exception. Bring the player, not the beautiful little social snowflake.
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10-07-2011 @ 6:33PM
Aquizit said...
I could not disagree with you more.
I enjoy raiding because it is with my friends? Are we good? Good enough. Are we great? Hardly, we're 2/7 heroic so we're pretty 'bad' by most 'real raiders' standards.
I wouldn't change it for the world, however.
However, Tyler's advice is certainly sound, and is a great benchmark for raid leaders and raiders in general.
10-07-2011 @ 6:44PM
shotiechan said...
It's a social game. If you want to play on your own time, there are plenty of other games that cater to that.
10-07-2011 @ 6:45PM
HappyTreeDance said...
"Friendship has no place in WoW if you have a good social life outside of the game."
I'm sorry, that just kind of made me laugh. I have a good social life outside of the game, but that doesn't mean I'd want to spend hours every week hanging out with people I may or may not like killing internet dragons for imaginary pieces of loot. Raiding is about hanging out with my friends (yes, friends, even if they are internet people) and working together to have fun. Maybe it's not your idea of how a raid should be run, but that's the beauty of WoW. There are lots of different ways to enjoy it. So you don't need to criticize other people just because they're not raiding the way you think they should be.
10-07-2011 @ 7:07PM
madfigs said...
Further reenforcing my belief that I would never want to play with anyone who uses "bads" in a non-joking manner!
10-07-2011 @ 7:12PM
DarkWalker said...
Wow, this just described a kind of guild I would not join (or at least not in WoW; in games that don't have raid locks and allows characters to join more than one guild, I MIGHT join a purely results oriented guild as my second guild, if it provided me with benefits without hampering my relationship with my main guild ).
Games are meant to be fun; interaction with other players is meant to be cordial and friendly, even if you are meeting as rivals. If that is not the case, I might as well leave.
10-07-2011 @ 7:37PM
Jyotai said...
"No tolerance for bads" is probably one of the top sparks of drama.
Who's definition of bad?
Cause most people tying others to that burning stake would likely be lit up on it if forced to be judged by their own standards on any number of different days.
This kind of policies is -ALWAYS- actually enforced as: "no tolerance for mistakes I can blame on others, vigorous denial when blaming fails."
10-08-2011 @ 5:12AM
omedon666 said...
Either you are trolling, or you are "part of the problem" with raiding, and indeed, with WoW.