My normal mode guild found all the nerfed Firelands stuff far too easy and far too boring as a result. We won't be doing our standard raids through the raid finder, since it will also be too easy.

Also, we would need 15 PuGs. No thanks.

Well Skar, good for you. My three-hours-a-week group of people who have jobs, kids, and other complications and therefor almost never sends in the exact same 10 people two weeks in a row and often starts late as we try to pug someone in only got to Rags for the first time this week (got through phase two after about three tries but then a healer had to leave -- helped a lot that about half our team had seen him already on another toon.) We have a lot of folks in our guild who can't routinely make our regular runs because of jobs, school, etc. -- this will be a big boon for them -- and for all out altoholics.

My normal mode guild raids 2 nights a week, 3 hours a night. We currently have 11 raid members. Of those 11 members, at least six have kids. Including both of our main tanks, both of our off-tanks and two of our healers. Of the other five, at least three are married, but I'm not sure if they have kids. I and possibly one other raider are the only ones that are un-married and kid-less. Every single raid member, including every parent, has a full-time job as well.

Don't give me a load of crap about how it's "impossible" to raid with kids because I have a full raid that doesn't it every single week. We're adults. We recognize the value of time and have respect for the time that each raid member is contributing. At the same time I also recognize that some people's lives just don't have even that much time for WoW. Is WoW the most important thing? Of course not. Why do we play? Because we enjoy it. Because it's a great way to have some down time and fun with friends. It's worth it to us to take just a few hours out of the week and raid. We LIKE normal difficulty. It's perfect for us. Challenging, but not soul-crushing. Progressable, but not faceroll-easy.

Despite that, nowhere in my first response did I say the Raid Finder was a bad idea. Just that it's not MY preference. If you bother to look through my posting history here, you'll find that I've more than once suggested the need for an "easy" difficulty level for raids. I am in full support of the Raid Finder for those that want to use it. I am just not one of those and neither is my raid group. You will enjoy it? Good for you! Seriously. I hope you have fun. I won't be running in the Raid Finder because, quite simply, it won't be fun for me.

Fine, though I didn't say "impossible." And I did miss that you mentioned the "nerfed" material. Nuances are not always clear on the internet -- I interpreted your message as "I'm awesome" and it seems I was wrong.

Normal 10mans will live I'm sure.
At least my PC is so made out of wood I cant do any 25mans. Ulduar was horrible 1 fps fest and Tol barad 25 still was. I just cant do it. No matter how much loot they throw to me I wont do 25mans ever again. Not only due lag but I wouldnt be able to stand 24 people running around not knowing what to do (which will happen at start). Thats just me tho.

Ah, the lack of "nerfed Firelands" in my first post would have made a difference. I was really just responding to Zura's worry that Normal modes would become unpopular. I don't think that's the case. Though I do think the largest amount of players simply want Easy mode, I also think the smallest amount of players want Heroic. There is a group in the middle there, smaller than "easy" and bigger than "hard" that would like something right in the middle.

Normal is perfect and I hope it's here to stay, along with an easier and a harder difficulty.