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10-16-2011 @ 5:33PM
I only take issue here with this: You didn't mention anything about Crusader Korfax and the Brotherhood of the Light. If you do the quests in Stratholme, the place fills up with Argent Crusaders, and Korfax is the primary leader of them, and I believe you encounter him and Archmage Dosantos earlier in a series of Quests in Eastern Plaguelands.Here's the problem: Korfax is completely insane. He talks about NOTHING stopping their domination of the area, if I recall correctly, not even the Holy Light. By all accounts, he and the Brotherhood of the Light (sort of the militant arm of the Argent Dawn before there was an Argent Crusade), are more active in the leadership of the Argent Crusade than Tirion Fordring (Light bless his old soul), and while this may be a little Tinfoil-hatty, it is obvious that the elements are there for Crusader Korfax to turn the Argent Crusade into a repeat of the Scarlet Crusade.Let me restate: I don't mean to say that it MUST be so, but it is obvious that there is a large, powerful faction in the Argent Crusade that is led by Korfax, who insists on domination even if the Light itself refuses to give it to him. Which leads me to say, and this is the only part that, as mentioned, is tad Tinfoil Hatty, that the Argent Crusade is going down the route of the Scarlet Crusade before it.It makes me sad, because the Argent Crusade is my favorite faction, and my paladin considers himself Argent first, Alliance second (even though he's still very Alliance). I'd love to hear you opinions on this, Anne, and I think that any discussion of plot points can't be perfect without this (admittedly somewhat obscure) piece of lore. It's the first sign of madness reentering a Crusade.
10-16-2011 @ 7:15PM
Wasn't the Brotherhood of the Light the name of the kind of alliance that the Argent Dawn kept with the Scarlet Crusade in their push against Stratholme and Naxxramas? In any case, they consider themselves to be a splinter faction of the Argent Dawn, but still within the Argent Dawn (now Argent Crusade). They see themselves as different from the rest of the argent crusaders, so it would be difficult that they actually got to control it.No matter what Korfax says, the core of the Argent Crusade is the holy light, and as soon as your fury and lust for revenge draw you away from the light, you'll be outside the core of the Crusade.
10-16-2011 @ 11:55PM
My perception from the revised EPL (I saw them briefly when one alt was farming the tabard but don't have a real sense of the change) was that the BoL was a group of Argents which failed to learn the lesson of the Scarlets. It struck me as a sort of tragedy in the Greek sense of the term: We know they too will eventually become like the pitiful remnant of the Scarlets being mopped up now.Like the Scarlets, the BoL went with the "Ends justify the means" and seeing mercy as a sign of weakness.My own Paladin views these groups with the following thoughts:Argents: Too rigid and legalistic, often missing the bigger point. What kind of idiot sets up a tournament in a warzone? Why jousting when the fight to defeat the Lich King has nothing to do with horse riding?Scarlets: Once you forsake the Light for pragmatism, you've lost everything even if you win battles (or, "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world...")BoL: See Scarlets.
10-16-2011 @ 11:56PM
**saw them briefly in the Scarlet Monastery instances**
10-17-2011 @ 6:11AM
I'm not an RPer but I do have a back story for my Paladin. He was still a young squire living in Lordaeron when the events of the 3rd war happened. Because he was barely old enough to go into battle he was assigned to escort refugees out of the area to Stormwind. He and his master ended up staying there to finish his training and to this day he does not believe that the silverhand ever fell, he and many other knights are still around.He considered his membership in the Argent Dawn a given during classic because hey they were his brothers and sisters under a different name. Some where now simply of another race, but the light welcomes all he believes. He even held out hope of the scarlets seeing the truth and returning to the righteous path till the last moments. He embraced the Argent Crusades more active role in northrend and put his full weight behind them. But now that the war is over he wonders why the crusade is not helping fight deathwing or fix the world. The orginal mission was to protect Azeroth not just from the undead but from all threats. Sitting in a fortess well a dragon fueled by chaos and evil is tearing the world apart is not doing that. So now he considers him self more of a knight errent much like classic and bc saw him as. He is a memeber of the order but hes doing his own mission for the light.
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