Spiritual Guidance: Minor glyphs for discipline and holy priests, plus some pre-BlizzCon silliness

Whenever I'm scoping out priests on the Armory or even in my own raid team, I always like to see what glyphs they pick. Mind you, there doesn't actually tend to be much variety from priest to priest. The best glyphs usually stand leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, especially with major and minor glyphs, so there isn't usually much difference between one priest or another. So why do I check? Because I'm looking to see if the priest has Glyph of Shadowfiend equipped.
Glyph of Shadowfiend
WoW is a game where every little bit counts, and even the most seemingly insignificant variables can make a difference over the long run. Minor glyphs are no exception to this, which is why it frustrates me to no end when I see a raiding priest with the Glyph of Shadowfiend equipped. Why? Because the Glyph of Shadowfiend is terrible for raids and most group PVE. Let me explain why.
The effect of the glyph is quite simple: If your Shadowfiend somehow dies in combat, you will immediately gain 5% of your maximum mana as a consolation for losing out on the mana your Shadowfiend would have provided you. Not a bad trade-off, right? That is, until you realize there are few ways for your little Shadowfiend to die in a raid.
You see, at the beginning of Wrath of the Lich King, all pets were given Avoidance, a passive ability that allows pets to avoid 90% of all AOE damage from enemy NPCs. Enemy player AOE in PVP will still damage pets for the full effect, but not AOE from bosses. Since we're talking about Wrath anyway, think back to your final fight against the Lich King in Icecrown Citadel. Do you remember when the Lich King used Remorseless Winter and everyone in your raid would need to run to the edge of the Frozen Throne to avoid being killed by the damage in a few mere seconds? Remember how all the hunter pets wouldn't retreat with the group and actually stayed in melee range of the boss while he channeled Remoreless Winter? That's Avoidance at work, and Shadowfiends have it just like every other pet. (You learn these things from hanging out with uncommonly good-looking hunters, by the way.)
If a Shadowfiend isn't gong to die from boss AOE, the only way it can be killed is by taking direct damage from the boss or mob. But since a Shadowfiend's damage will never generate more threat than a tank or a damage class, it's unlikely that it will ever wind up with enough threat to be targeted with direct damage. The exception to this, of course, is if you start pulling bosses with your Shadowfiend. If you do this, mana is probably going to be your last concern, since you will almost certainly be the next dead person in the room after your Shadowfiend kicks the bucket.
So if you think about it, the only way for you to utilize the Glyph of Shadowfiend is if you act like an idiot in raids and carelessly send your beloved pet after a freshly spawned mob. Otherwise, it should never die, and you will never benefit from the effects of the glyph. In PVP and solo play, the glyph makes perfect sense, but in raids and dungeons, it's a waste.
What to get instead? Well, I personally pick up the Glyph of Fading, since I use Fade quite frequently in raiding, especially during phase transitions when boss threat resets or new mobs spawn. When healing as a holy priest, especially, I'll almost always have more threat than other healers, so the ability is a great tool for avoiding death if your tank needs a moment to pick up the baddie monster that wants to eat my face.
Other minor glyphs
Now that I've made a big fuss about a tiny little glyph, I figured it would be at least somewhat appropriate to point out that the other two recommended minor glyphs for a healing priest are the Glyph of Fortitude and the Glyph of Levitate. Sometimes I might even recommend Glyph of Shackle Undead, but it's very situational. As I said earlier, the best glyphs usually stand out, so I suspect most of you already have these glyphs equipped. If you don't though, let me explain their benefits.
- Glyph of Levitate doesn't tend to have a whole lot of actual utility in everyday raiding, but it's extremely useful in every other part of the game, so it just makes sense to use this glyph. Finding reagents is a big pain, and running out of Light Feathers when you're trying to cast Levitate is sometimes lethal if you were using the spell to cushion a fall.
- Glyph of Fortitude makes buffing in combat a lot more cost-effective. As you know, group buffs are extremely taxing on mana, and if you have to rebuff the group because a player died during an encounter, casting Power Word: Fortitude can be devastating on your mana. Taking this glyph sands the pointy edge of the mana cost off and makes the burden of buffing a bit more manageable. (I still try to make the shadow priests do the buffing if I can, though.)
- Glyph of Shackle Undead is the last minor glyph I'd recommend, and even then, I think it's overrated. If you find yourself in a dungeon of undead baddies, it's great; the rest of the time, it's useless and you shouldn't bother with it. I rarely used Shackle Undead in Icecrown Citadel, and when I did, it was usually on trash. I use it a lot more in PVP when dealing with death knights, and in that situation I do recommend this glyph over Glyph of Shadowfiend.
A pre-BlizzCon questionaire
Hopefully, most of you will know that BlizzCon 2011 is right around the corner, and that means next weekend I'll be compromised in Anaheim having too much fun with my fellow nerds. I suspect plenty of WoW Insider readers will be in the same boat, so I like to write a fun post to follow up the weekend instead of something technical.
Last year, I asked a few priests I met about their experiences as a priest, and this year I want to do it again but with more preparation. Thus, I've written up a set of questions I'd like to ask the priests I come across. Take a look.
- Tell us about your first priest. When did you start playing him? What race was she? Do you have any memorable stories about your early adventures as a priest?
- What spec do you play most and why?
- What's your favorite part about playing a priest?
- What new ability do you want for priests in the next expansion?
- What needs to be fixed about priests?
- Have you ever cosplayed as a priest? If you haven't, tell us what armor you would wear.
- Is there anything else you can think of about being a priest that you want to tell me?
Readers, if you can think of other good questions to ask, leave them in the comments and I'll add them to the list. After that, if you'd like to participate yourself, come find me at BlizzCon. I'll obviously be at the WoW Insider party, so I should be easy to find then. During the rest of the weekend, I'll just be wandering around taking pictures and looking for priests (the ones in cosplay are the easiest to find, so make it easy on me by finding me). If you aren't going to be at BlizzCon, send me your answers in an email to dawn@wowinsider.com before BlizzCon ends on Saturday night.
See you soon!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Bellajtok Oct 17th 2011 9:20PM
Can I talk about druid minor glyphs? Thanks.
Druid have a couple nice minor glyphs- Glyph of Aquatic Form, for example, is absolutely beautiful in any aquatic environment. Glyph of Dash is, again, wonderful, especially for that pesky run after a wipe. It's even good as a combat tool for extra escape speed. Glyph of Challenging Roar is a necessity for Bear tanks, and Glyph of Unburdened Rebirth is required for everyone else. (If your tank is Brezzing, you're doing it wrong.) And trees may or may not want Glyph of the Treant.
And sometimes, as a Resto druid- if you want that Treant form- you have to make sacrifices. Sacrifices like Glyph of Dash. AND IT SUCKS.
That's all I came to say, thanks for listening to my whining.
meringue Oct 17th 2011 9:49PM
You can't, because every paladin who happens to be reading this thread is facepalming too hard. Have you looked at paladin minors?
Revynn Oct 17th 2011 9:59PM
Glyph of Kilrogg says hi.
Warlock Minors have been garbage since the Glyph system was introduced. The only one that is mildly useful is Glyph of Undending Breath, a spell I haven't cast since I stopped doing my TB dailies back in 4.0.3
Bellajtok Oct 17th 2011 10:20PM
Sorry for whining about too many decent Minor Glyphs. I guess I'm just annoyed that we will soon have (depending on how you count) as few as zero decent Major Glyphs.
Bellajtok Oct 17th 2011 10:22PM
Here's my comment for reference on the Major Glyphs thing. http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/10/11/shifting-perspectives-reconsidering-wild-growth/comments/34897976/
I guess I should be grateful we have enough one kind of glyph......
Eros Oct 17th 2011 11:05PM
First, glyph kilrogg is cool, second druids have some of the best minor glyphs in the game, so complaining about them is silly. This comes from somebody who plays a druid as a main and an alt... on the same server. Cat/Bear/Tree/Boomkin ftw!
That one Joey Oct 17th 2011 9:21PM
Miss Moore, do you take suggestions from the comments for your spiritual guidance columns? If so, I am in dire need of the priest community (and queen healy priest)'s opinions on the pro's and con's of speccing for atonement/AA and using the smite build for hard core raiding. My guild is pushing further into heroic FL's and plans to be extremely competitive for server firsts in Dragon Soul. Input greatly appreciated.
excorgh Oct 17th 2011 10:36PM
I may help you with this (I've done heroic 10man 6/7 pre-nerf).
I only used non-A/AA spec on Baleroc, the rest was done either with A/AA or Holy. A quick rundown:
Shannox: any spec works with no real benefit of AA;
Bethtilac: I was sent up and the 15% boost from AA helped keep people alive there as well as during acid rain she does after Devastation. AA is also great boost on p2, especially combined with Power infusion/BL;
Alysrazor: AA is at its best. It helps tanks with dps on the birds and the 15% boost to healing in the AoE phase is perfect;
Ryolith: I was holy on this one, but AA can utilize increased dmg taken by the Spark to heal the tank and help with DPS. 15% boost for p2 should also be considerable;
Baleroc: no AA here unless its long on farm. Shield the tank prior to each hit of Decimation blade is huge and absorbs about 1/3 of it. Also, very high single-target hps with Shield->Flash x3->repeat for crystal soakers. Should be noted that Atonement does get increased heals when it hits the tank but since you can't be sure its going to hit the tank its not very reliable;
Staghelm: We did the "normal" method of pushing Scorp as high as possible and 7 leaps on every cat. Just like on Beth p2, AA is very good here and Barrier is just OP, especially with glyph. Also its not a good idea to keep a disc outside of the scythe as the PWS doesn't benefit from Concentration, so better leave it to Druid or Shaman (2 healing it). During cat Atonement and Penance pretty much keep the tank up and help DPS.
Ragnaros: We are still progressing on him (reaching p4), but its a holy fight for sure so no help from me =)
Hope it made sense as its not my native language.
Katherine Oct 18th 2011 5:25PM
I've smited every boss in firelands but baleroc, and I've smited H shannox (have not smited on H rhyo attempts). I've smited Rag's adds.
Revynn Oct 17th 2011 9:56PM
- If you remember, what was it that made you decide to roll a Priest in the first place?
Luke Oct 18th 2011 12:33AM
For me, it was the idea of a Forsaken Priest. A bit of irony, a little irreverence, and a whole lot of awesome.
Killik Oct 18th 2011 5:32AM
I thought "I should roll a healer - priests are the healing class, aren't they?" Saw someone in Shadowform when I was about level 8. Never did get round to healing.
JiggyBOOM! Oct 17th 2011 10:15PM
At least Glyph of Shadowfiend has a benefit in a raid. Glyph of Levitate does not, at all.
In fact, when was the last time you casted Power Word: Fortitude in a boss fight? I think that glyph is useless as well. The only time it becomes worthwhile is if a tank dies and someone resurrects them, and you would have a LOT more things to worry about besides that buff if a tank just died.
Glyph of Shadowfiend is better than nothing, and that's why I would expect anyone serious about maximizing their efficiency would take it, even though the effect is meaningless 99% of the time.
Austin Oct 17th 2011 10:30PM
ragnaros wants to have a word regarding levitate. And i have never had my shadowfiend die ever. Ever.
Kreek Oct 17th 2011 10:34PM
Any raid with an elevator boss makes Glyph of Levitate worth the investment. Plus, as a conduit of pure holy energy, you should be floating above the rabble as a matter of course.
Funny that you mention "maximizing efficiency" after saying its not worthwhile to cast Power Word Fortitude in combat. If you're not putting Fortitude on a DPS or Healer that was just Brezzed then you're gimping your raid, period.
Lipstick Oct 17th 2011 10:35PM
actually the whole reasons battle rez's exist is because people sometimes rez in combat. In my raid only one priest hits the rebuff buttons and on mumble you can commonly hear "I've got priest buffs" so it's not essential for -every- priest to have power word fortitude ... but it does happen, and it's not just the tank that could use/might want rebuffs.
amnbrownie Oct 17th 2011 11:29PM
I have to rebuff PW:F anytime someone dies. Every little bit helps when you're raiding progression. Is the mana cost a huge deal? Maybe not, but it IS something people do.
Matrillik Oct 20th 2011 10:10AM
Did you even read the article? And do you even raid? Because your points really lead me to believe neither is true.
Handmaiden Oct 17th 2011 10:37PM
I, for one, am notorious for using my fiend as a tank when soloing harder elites. He's perfect for taking down mobs such as Problim. DoT Problim up, flay him until he closes to melee range, then pop fiend and Fade... 15 solid seconds of pet tanking!
tbutton Oct 18th 2011 12:45PM
This. I've been soloing wrath heroics as disc, and using the fiend + fade to buy a few seconds, or, if I'm having one of my smart days, avoid a stun, is great. And really, you want me to respec every time to save on feather outlays?