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10-18-2011 @ 8:05PM
I'm not really a PvPer, but I think I should mention something regarding points 5 and 3:* 5There's a situation I step into BGs against my will - when some non-PvP achievement requires a PvP step. Whenever that occurs, I enter the BG to do the achievement; I'm not playing to help the team, to kill the opponents, or even to win: I'm going to make a beeline to whatever task I need to do for the achiev, and only help my team if/when it helps me get the acievement. In this situation I make sure to let my team know that I'm playing just for the achievement, and I actually want the rest of my team to complain about me; the more players complaining about achievement-hunting PvErs ruining their games, the lower the chance of Blizzard doing more such achievements.Also, whenever there is a PvP piece that would help my PvE gear - and is easier to get than the PvE equivalent - I go after it. The difference is that, in this situation, since I'm playing of my own freewill, I will do everything in my power (within reason) to help my team. Of course, even then I'm still a player with little to no PvP experience or gear.* 3This is the main reason I don't play WoW's PvP for fun. I actually like objective-based PvP, but I refuse to play when there is an inherent, character-based handicap - such as the gear progression in WoW.It's not only that I don't want to play against better geared players. I also don't like facing worse geared players - it feels like I'm cheating when I feel like I won just because I had better gear. In the end, for PvP, if gear > skill, I don't want to play. Plus, I'm not really into having to organize groups to play - so Arenas and Rated BGs, where the gear disparity would be minimized, don't hold any attraction over me.Thus, I do my PvP in other games, and I'm enthusiastically waiting for GW2 - it will feature arenas where everyone is given the same quality gear, and open world PvP where the game equalizes the power of the different characters. The absence of gear progression makes me much happier in PvP, which leads me to spend many fun hours happily blasting away at other random players.
10-18-2011 @ 8:52PM
I'd just like to point out that if you're upgrading PvE gear to PvP gear for PvE content, you're not actually upgrading, you're faking your ilvl. A 353 PvE piece is better than a 371 PvP piece as it has more USEFUL stat points. Resilience is completely useless in PvE, it ONLY affects damage caused by players, so the points allocated to Resilience on your gear is wasted, thus lowering your effective gear level. You may have more Strength, Agility, Intellect, or Spirit, but you won't be performing any better than you were in those 346 blues due to your lack of secondary stats.
10-18-2011 @ 9:05PM
Actually, Natsumi, that's not quite true. If it's a large enough ilvl difference, the extra stats will make the PvP gear a better option. Especially for Int- using classes, where Int is everything. At the point where it's 40+ levels greater, you're probably getting a boost. Although it's hard to say for sure, obviously.
10-18-2011 @ 9:12PM
Bellajtok is stupid.Lul
10-18-2011 @ 9:47PM
Obviously, it's rare that, with VP and JP, someone would have a slot with such a large ilvl gap, but it could happen- most likely when people are just starting in Zulroics and still have a few quest greens laying around. It happens, and if you happen to have some honor lying around from leveling, buying one or two pieces of PvP gear is an acceptable solution.
10-18-2011 @ 11:13PM
Before anyone calls me an idiot, let me make a case for you. For the vast majority of specs, pvp gear is generally worse then pve gear. The one exception i know of is bearsFor bears (i has mathz on my computer, on my ipod right now), agility is ridiculuously good. As such, secondary stats (esp. non mastery) arent great. Because of this, one tier higher pvp gear is actually the same as a tier of pve gear below it ( 371 is actually a tier and a half above 359 because of s9 and thus is better) qnd any higher is better. So, 384=371 gear. If the 371 ( or tier below pvp gear) has mastery and the pvp gear doesnt, the pve gear is slightly better. If you are really persistant on calling me an idiot i will bring up math for you guys onfe im on my computer.
10-19-2011 @ 12:31AM
Except no Natsumi, you;re wrong, on my alt combat rogue The ruthless glad helm SIMS better for damage than both my 359 Tsenga;s helm and the 353 troll hc one.So no you;re wrong, suck it..That said it is the only PVP piece I use across any of my chars.
11-08-2011 @ 10:27AM
Natsumi that ideology is a fallacy of many PVE players, there are several PVP pieces that give several different classes upgrades that they would otherwise be starved to find. Look at Resto Druid, its almost impossible to find leather bracers with good stat's, so you could run around forever with your 333 crap or you could run 3-4 random daily BG's and pick up a 371 pvp bracer that is way better than the 333 crap you've been carrying around. My druid tank has on 365 pvp pants which give him significantly more stam, agil, and dodge than the 346 pants I had before, being that those are the only real stats you care about as a bear unless your sacrificing 200 points of mastery for a 10 point increase to agil(which I'm not) the pvp pants are better. Another important thing that people that only focus on PVE sometimes don't realize about PVP gear is that often you sacrifice a somewhat useless stat for your class in order to pick up significantly more of a very important stat such as Hit rating where with the PVE you might have found it almost impossible to pick up another 200 hit rating to reach hit cap, getting that one PVP piece with 190 hit on it puts you where you need to be.
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