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10-19-2011 @ 11:07AM
I'm not sure I even remember how the Alliance rolls. They haven't seemed interesting since Warcraft 2, in which they were completely awesome. Now days they seem to just be full of bad pop culture references. Like the first 20 something levels where you follow around the CSI team.
10-19-2011 @ 11:16AM
Followed immediately by Rambo...Sure, it's amusing, but from a story perspective, Alliance has nothing to speak of. Even the things that DID happen, like Magni being turned to rock, and the Council of the Three Hammers... there's the briefest of mentions in questing, and then nothing... (Unless it's in the Burning Steppes... I haven't quested through there yet.) But it seems like there should definitely be some big friction going on with the Dark Irons and Ironforge proper, especially with what's been going on at Blackwing Descent.
10-19-2011 @ 11:30AM
On the other hand, if you level on Kalimdor you actually see more important things. The Teldrassil quests explain what happened to Fandrel--which is nice. You see the destruction of Auberdine and how the Night Elves are coping. You see the increased tension in Ashenvale and the immediate attacks from the Horde. It is better story telling and lasts longer than one play through in my opinion.I did Red Ridge once and that was enough.
10-19-2011 @ 12:16PM
I dunno. Westfall only had 3 or 4 CSI moments, and it struck me as just a side-joke to the actual story: the resurgence of the Defias Brotherhood. Westfall was not, in fact, one giant CSI joke (although it did get old after the first time).Redridge was definitely all Rambo, though. Except maybe for some pig-gut-collecting. At least I think pig guts were involved.
10-19-2011 @ 12:31PM
Rambo (or Keeshan, as he's called on Azeroth) returns in Burning Steppes, I think.Seeing the conflict in the Barrens from the Alliance-side, however, gives me a lot of conflict as a mainly Horde player. It shows that Garrosh isn't the only one who's interested in pushing for more. It made my self-righteous "WHY TAURAJO?!" sentiment deflate a little.But I guess it all depends on your definition of "awesome" and "interesting."
10-19-2011 @ 12:32PM
Burning steps is (sorry for the spoilers, Krotzer), just a continuation of Redridge. I won't go into the details but it actually works due to the proximity and, in a sense, fits well. I found it interesting but if you haven't done Redridge it would be confusing.
10-19-2011 @ 1:06PM
"They haven't seemed interesting since Warcraft 2"Exactly. And, not so coincidently, Warcraft 3 is when Metzen started taking over in the story department, and he certainly makes no secret of how much he loves the Horde. Maybe he's not all to blame, but I think it's a big part of the story there.
10-19-2011 @ 2:17PM
He's probably the reason we got a redemption retcon spearheaded by Thrall and Grom, rather than just a resurgence of the Old Horde for another assault. Ironically, Warcraft 3 and its (at the time) unique take on orcs for the genre was probably what cemented his position, which means his prior success with the Horde in that game is the cause of the storytelling disasters we have today with the Alliance.
10-19-2011 @ 2:44PM
I'll tell you how the Alliance rolls. They don't give a F about classes. They roll like Tyrande, shooting magic arrows, casting Starfall, cleaving like a warrior, spamming moonfire. They roll like Arthas, killing zombies and not asking any questions, telling it like it is.More hunter/druid/warrior combos that kick ass, take names, and shoot-first-and-don't-bother-asking-questions. That's how the Alliance rolls. (Or how it should if blizzard wants to make them any kind of cool again. We love Boba Fett, we don't like the pompous captain who's ship gets taken out by one ion cannon blast and watches as the Rebels escape Hoth.)
10-19-2011 @ 6:17PM
@Pyromelter If only that were the case in WoW. Gone are those type of heroes. I don't even think I can say Tyrande is a shadow of what she used to be. I love how Alex refers to Varian as being orcified in order to make him interesting. That is exactly how I felt.
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