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10-25-2011 @ 10:56PM
That strikes me as really weird. Isn't that much "required" raiding what the developers were trying to prevent as part of melding 10/25 lockouts?
10-25-2011 @ 10:57PM
Also, what was that about wanting LESS Dragonwrath's out there?
10-26-2011 @ 1:20AM
The old Zul'Gurub used to have this exact lockout system... although I think the days were different. It was like Tuesday at 4 am and Friday at 4 am.Those of us praying for tiger mounts would solo that bad boy twice a week. Never got it tho /cry, and the panther thing that looks exactly like the night elf mounts frankly is straight lame compared to the zulian tiger.As far as Dragonwraith, it'll still take a long time, but I'm of the opinion it takes non-elite raiders too long to get legendaries. With the exception of 1 horde guild on my server, everyone on my server got Shadowmourne well after it was really necessary for dps checks. And plenty of people never got it. Let's not even talk about Val'anyr. People who have and are getting dragonwraith by now have been doing firelands for what, 5 months? That's a crap-ton of raiding and time... and just simple grinding.Frankly I think the "farm a raid for 1-2 months for legendary shards" is real crap when it comes to legendaries. I prefer more of the "do something special during a boss kill" type thing. The optional boss thing is cool too. Farming for materials, go do that for crafted epics. Leave it out of the epic questing for a legendary, please.Anyway if this helps a few more people get a legendary at this point, I don't see why you (or anyone) would have a problem with it. It still takes a crap ton of effort, and the total time you put into getting it doesn't go down (it's just that the time you put in will now be compressed on the calendar).
10-26-2011 @ 5:01PM
Didn't say I had a problem with it, but I'm not surprised it was easy to read that into my comment. :) I just think it's...odd. Particularly when Blizzard JUST got done adjusting drop rates to slow down the legendary acquisition, it's weird that they'd suddenly double the rate. (Or is that halve the rate? Oh well.) One possibility is that the US and Europe won't get the double-lockout until 4.3 hits, so Firelands won't be the rage any more. I don't know how far "behind" China and Taiwan are, but this will help bring them up to speed...if that's needed at all.I too am annoyed by the Legendary rate for non-elite raiders. My guild's caster will be getting stage 2 in two weeks. We won't even complete one before Dragon Soul comes out. We've been killing Rags for weeks now and we're even 3/7 Heroic modes. Then again, a chunk of that slowdown is because we're a 10-man guild. I don't have a problem with Legendary weapons being rare, but this is fairly ridiculous.The most interesting part of the Dragonwrath chain is the Foci "Delegation" stage and the solo-instance run before that. Our raiders asked last night "after you get stage 2, what's next?" And my answer was "oh, we just kill more bosses and collect a third drop from them." There response was (naturally) "well that's lame." So I agree Pyro, I'd love to see more "do this boss different" like the Shadowmourne chain. I also really loved the addition of a solo hard boss kill as part of the chain. I absolutely adore the idea that getting a legendary actually tests the skills of the individual raider and not just "how long does it take to collect X?"Zul'Gurub actually reset every 3 days, but wasn't on a set timer. If it reset this week on Tuesday and Friday, then next week it would reset on Monday and Thursday, eventually cycling back around to Tuesday/Friday. I never did see either of the mounts drop while the raid was current. I finally got the Raptor a few weeks before it was removed. Never saw the Tiger. :/
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