All the World's A Stage: Plot points for members of the Kirin Tor
If you played WoW at all during Wrath of the Lich King or spent any time at all in Dalaran, you already know of the Kirin Tor -- but they've been around far, far longer than one expansion. The Kirin Tor are an elite sect of powerful mages, and Dalaran is their city-state. A kingdom of sorts, all to its own, Dalaran's been around for thousands of years. The Kirin Tor are strictly a neutral organization, adamantly unwilling to choose one faction over the other. Both Alliance and Horde are welcome in Dalaran, but fighting is not allowed, the city being just as neutral as the citizens that live within its walls.
In order to be a member of the Kirin Tor, you must be a mage. Non-mages can gain reputation and favor with the Kirin Tor, but they are not actually a member of the organization itself; membership is strictly reserved for mages. According to the RPG source guides, the Kirin Tor was originally made up of 120 members -- however, since the RPG source guides aren't "real" canon, they're just sort of canon-ish, you can easily call your mage a member of the Kirin Tor if you'd like to.
The Kirin Tor saw a lot of action in Wrath, but they've been relatively quiet in Cataclysm, as the focus has shifted from the relocated capital city of the magi to the catastrophic events down south. This does not, however, mean that there isn't anything for a member of the Kirin Tor to think about these days.

Once upon a time, 2,800 years or so before the First War, there was a war between the High Elves of Quel'thalas and the Amani Trolls that were angry at High Elf encroachment upon sacred lands. These were the Troll Wars, and though the High Elves fought back valiantly, they could not hold their own against the Amani tides. To that end, they approached the Humans of Arathor and asked for their assistance against the Troll menace. The two kingdoms formed an alliance, with a catch -- the High Elves would teach 100 Humans the arts of arcane magic in return for the alliance. The Amani were beaten back, the High Elves rejoiced, and the 100 Humans began to learn magic.
Some time later, the assorted Human and High Elf mages founded the city of Dalaran, a place where they could practice and teach the arcane in peace. The Kirin Tor was originally a sect of mages that concentrated on cataloging and researching every piece of magic they could find -- every spell, artifact, book, anything they could get their hands on, much like the Explorer's League and the Reliquary collect objects from the past today. They didn't stay researchers for long, however. As time passed, the Kirin Tor grew to become Dalaran's ruling power.
Thus, the Kirin Tor isn't so much an organization as it is a government structure of magi, dedicated to magical research, study and preservation. Mages who belong to this group do exactly what every other mage in the world does -- they study, preserve, and protect magic, all while watching for new magic to categorize and study even further.

As far as the Kirin Tor's role in present day, it was virtually nonexistent until Wrath of the Lich King. Sensing magical disturbances to the north, the Kirin Tor uprooted Dalaran and moved it to Northrend. There were two distinct problems for the Kirin Tor to deal with -- there was the Lich King of course, but there was also the issue of Malygos' war against all other magic using races. Now, just because the Kirin Tor weren't really visible before Wrath doesn't mean that your mage was stuck in the Dalaran bubble prior to Wrath's launch. He could simply be a member that was wandering the world in search of magic rather than rebuilding the city, or he could have just recently joined the order during Wrath. Up to you!
Once Malygos and the Lich King were defeated, the Kirin Tor remained in Northrend and have yet to make any kind of major appearance in the south. But that doesn't mean that the Kirin Tor has been up to nothing of particular importance.
The death of Malygos and the rise of Kalecgos
What happened In Wrath of the Lich King, Malygos came to the forefront of the Kirin Tor's focus. After regaining his sanity, the blue Aspect came to the conclusion that magic was too dangerous to be placed in mortal hands. As a result of this, Malygos declared war on the Kirin tor and began relocating the ley lines of the world to Northrend, which was a big part of the reason for Dalaran's move. Malygos was eventually killed, and the Blue Dragonflight was without a leader until Kalecgos was chosen in Cataclysm.
How this affects your character When Malygos shifted the ley lines to Northrend, all mages were affected -- they felt a little weaker. This was pointed out in the Warcraft comics series. The mages of Azeroth have never really been in contact with Malygos; he was simply the Aspect of Magic, so his assumption that mortal mages were not worthy of using magic would also be something to think about. Lastly, Kalecgos' ascension means a new face as the leader of the Blue Dragonflight -- one who is far more interested in interacting with mortals.
What to consider How did your mage react during Wrath of the Lich King? Did he feel the shift in power? How does he feel about the Blue Dragonflight, given that the war against Malygos was likely his first introduction to that particular flight? Is he interested in learning more about the Blue Dragonflight, or is he far more interested in whatever research he happens to be currently working on? Did your mage take part in defeating Malygos? How does he feel about mortals bringing about the death of the Aspect of Magic?
We have all lost
What happened The Kirin Tor is strictly a neutral organization, much like the Argent Crusade. Both mages of the Alliance and Horde can join -- but tensions between the two factions have grown over the years during Wrath and exploded in Cataclysm. Though the Kirin Tor is still based in Dalaran and therefore largely present in Northrend, characters that are helping out during the Cataclysm are definitely down south and in the thick of things.
How this affects your character Much like members of the Argent Crusade, it's a matter of conflict of interest. Whether a member of the Alliance or the Horde, your character will need to reconcile the neutrality of the organization he belongs to with whatever he happens to feel about the opposing faction.
What to consider Is your mage extremely loyal to the Kirin Tor? How does he feel about the opposing faction? Was his homeland affected by opposing faction attacks? How does he feel about the conflicts to the south? Is he taking the side of his faction and standing in opposition, or is he trying desperately to remain neutral in a land that is fraught with war? Does he believe his faction should take revenge for what has been done to them, or does he believe that there are far worse things in the world we should be addressing?

What happened The Kirin Tor is mainly concerned with the discovery and preservation of magical artifacts. Yet in Cataclysm, we've seen the rise of another organization dedicated to an almost identical cause -- the Reliquary, a Blood Elf organization that is also dedicated to that task. It's been stated that the revival of the Reliquary was at the behest of an unknown council of Blood Elves, but whether their purpose is for good or for something more sinister is as yet unknown.
How this affects your character Unless you're a Blood Elf mage, the Reliquary is taking your job, essentially. The task of cataloging and preserving magic is something the Kirin Tor is very good at, and having anyone come in and try to usurp that territory is apt to be a little disconcerting. For Blood Elf mages, this represents another conflict of interest -- your people are trying to move in on the territory previously held by the organization you belong to.
What to consider Is your character an archaeologist? Is he one of the Kirin Tor members who is devoted to seeking out rare artifacts? How does he feel about the Reliquary? For that matter, how does he feel about archaeology in general? Does he think it serves a useful purpose, or is he horrified at the prospect of any random hero stomping through the world and retrieving magical items best kept in the hands of the Kirin Tor?

How you choose to express this with your character is fully up to you. However, just because the Kirin Tor isn't an overwhelming presence in this expansion doesn't mean you should ignore them entirely -- and if you are a member of the Kirin Tor, you should be aware of the line between magi and adventurer of Azeroth, and think twice about crossing it.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
fudge Oct 30th 2011 2:31PM
I've never quite understood the neutrality of the Kirin Tor. I understand that there was need for a neutral hub in Northrend, but I think there could have been a less illogical choice.
After all, Dalaran and Kirin Tor mages are slaughtered by the Forsaken by the hundreds, so why exactly would they want to be friends with them?
Murdertime Oct 30th 2011 3:31PM
I think it's something of a case of "You agree not to mention that we started blasting you on sight before you'd actually done anything and we agree not to remember you stabbing us for pets and amulets"
It's a similar arrangement to the one the Horde has with Cenarius.
I had no idea about the lore in this case and between the dudes outside the bubble, the dudes in Silverpine, the suspect armed guards with snake maces and all the other crap I thought they were like an evil mage version of Defias.
fudge Oct 30th 2011 3:34PM
Following them into their pocket dimension, so you can murder even more and make them mindless slaves in my army isn't something I'd decide to overlook in the Kirin Tor's place, though.
fudge Oct 30th 2011 3:37PM
The Cenarius thing is even weirder: Part of the Horde murdered him. Granted, they were high on Demon Blood at the time, but that's like saying "Sure, I murdered him, but I was pretty drunk, so it's not my fault".
I see that gameplay has to trump lore in a lot of cases, but sometimes it gets a bit silly.
Ringo Flinthammer Oct 30th 2011 3:46PM
The folks in Ambermill aren't an evil version of anything. They were creating a suburb of Dalaran because of the ley lines there, in what presumably was an effort to speed up the rebuilding of the city.
The Horde has always been "well, we're not sure what they're doing, but this forest is ours, so kick their asses."
It's definitely not a fight the Kirin Tor started.
Murdertime Oct 30th 2011 4:00PM
Now, the issue with the Cenarius thing was that it really was entirely his fault. It really is something he'd probably prefer people didn't bring up. You had a sequence of events that goes:
Thrall: Grom! You're an angry sociopath! I'm leaving you here to cut down some trees!
Grom sulks, cuts down some trees.
Night Elves start killing Orcs without warning. Orcs comment that said Elves are large, angry and have boobs. Unlike the alliance wuss elves. Whose boobs they never noticed.
Night Elves learn they are fighting Grom Hellscream. It goes about how you expect. They then decide that to SET A FREAKING GOD ON THE ORCS.
Cenairus: Yes, it would probably be sensible to talk to them about all this at some point but I /am/ a god and possess immunity to every damage type in the game! Watch me slaughter Orcs!
Grom Hellscream, kinda upset at fighting an orc proof god and at a loss what to do is told that there is a mysterious puddle filled with mysterious liquid. Also, there is a huge freaking stone skull over said puddle. Being an Orc, where giant skull shaped things are an important cultural symbol and given how well mysterious liquids have worked for him in the past, he drinks it.
Cenarius: Yes! Immune to every damage type! Ha! Die guys who resemble my good friend Broxigar! Wait...Chaos? That's new.
And thusly Cenarius found out he was fighting Grom Hellscream as well and this went about how you expect. However, unlike all thos orcs he killed, he apparently got better.
And this is why Cenarius doesn't bring up that time he got murdered. Because he comes off like kind of a dick.
Murdertime Oct 30th 2011 4:04PM
@Ringo
Yeah. The issue was more they were hostile mobs.
Who patted really close to the main road through Silverpine.
And their gear...well, it didn't look like the sort of gear a person who wasn't part of an evil mage cult was carrying.
So based on the evidence at hand and the fact that anyone related to the Kirin Tor tried to murder me on sight, even while I was trying to do my stupid shaman totem quest, I'm gonna assume that these are some bad guys until I remembered the name of the dudes in WC3
Vaeku Oct 30th 2011 4:06PM
Actually, the current quests in Silverpine where the Forsaken go to Ambermill and go to kill the Kirin Tor mages is a mess-up on Blizzard's part. Red Shirt Guy asked Metzen about that, and Metzen basically said that they messed up.
Suzaku Oct 30th 2011 4:25PM
If you actually go to Silverpine and do the quests that involve killing those mages, its stated that they're ex-Dalaran mages that chose to stay in Ambermill and the Dalaran Crater in order to plot against the Forsaken.
The guy who gives you quests to kill them is Dalar Dawnweaver, a former Dalaran mage that actually appeared in Warcraft 3, getting killed and raised by the Scourge. In WoW, he's obviously become a Forsaken, and he has an unspecified grudge with said mages. When the quest is completed its not really made clear whether he was just getting revenge, or if he's actually just a psychopath.
vocenoctum Oct 30th 2011 4:50PM
The orcs went in and started hacking down trees that were important to the elves, the elves responded to this with violence, the violence escalated. Did the orcs go find out if the area was populated first? Nyah. Did the elves try a peaceful resolution? Nyah. Did the orcs, when confronted by this, step back and seek a peaceful resolution? Nyah.
It's a very violent world. You can't walk through some forests without the DEER attacking you!
vocenoctum Oct 30th 2011 4:53PM
The "snafu" admitted to at Blizzcon is that the silverpine mages are still flagged as Kirin Tor when they should be "ex Dalaran" or something. You're still killing them, they're still the same people, but now that Dalaran moved it's somehow okay and not in conflict with the kirin tor.
Leaving aside whether the Forsaken claim to Lordaeron is valid or not, IIRC Dalaran was another of the 7 kingdoms or whatnot, same as Gilneas. The only claim the forsaken have there (or Southshore) is conquest. Which is fine, I suppose, but it'd help if they were more honest about it at times.
fudge Oct 30th 2011 5:04PM
Interesting interpretation, Murdertime.
Let me offer another view:
Night Elves live in their sacred forest, minding their own business. Green, aggressive, warlike humanoids start chopping down said forest. Orcs proceed to beat the crap out of the Night Elves.
Night Elves: Shit, they're beating the crap out of us. What in Elune's name can we do to stop them from raping our holy forest? Oh, right, let's call on the divine protector of all things foresty.
Cenarius: I am the protector of green things that are not Orcs! Die, interlopers! Also, who the hell is Broxigar? I have never heard that name. Nor have I heard of Rhonin or retcons. Die, interlopers!
Orc peon: Maybe we shouldn't chop down other people's sanctuaries. Also: Work, work.
Grom: Fuck that, let's drink some DEMON BLOOD.
The End.
Wrathkind Oct 30th 2011 9:13PM
@vocenoctum
"Leaving aside whether the Forsaken claim to Lordaeron is valid or not ... The only claim the forsaken have there (or Southshore) is conquest."
Yes, let's leave aside the validity of the claim, but let's also make it the central point of contention. Let's ignore the Forsaken's claim to Lordaeron for the moment, but let's make it perfectly clear that they really have no claim. Let's insinuate that Forsaken are trespassers even though they lived there in life, and fought to liberate those areas in undeath.
Some people are conveniently ignoring that Lordaeron fell. The bulk of its survivors fled and abandoned the kingdom. Dalaran retreated within its bubble, and Gilneas had already walled itself off beforehand.
The successor to the throne of Lordaeron was Arthas, until he lost that crown to civil war. The transfer of power completed when the undead citizens chose to raise a new queen to that throne. Those who abandoned Lordaeron to its fate don't have a say in the resulting regime.
Gilneas, for all intents and purposes, ceded all of Silverpine to Lordaeron when they abandoned Ambermill, Pyrewood, and the other human settlements outside the Greymane Wall. Those fair-weather friends withdrew from the Alliance of Lordaeron for selfish reasons, and chose an isolationist stance to the devastation outside. Do they really expect no lingering anger from those who fell into undeath?
As for the Hillsbrad Foothills, the kingdom of Alterac effectively ended when both Lordaeron and Stromgarde shut down the House of Perenolde. With Dalaran's departure from the area, and Stromgarde being besieged by Syndicate and Boulderfist elements, the Foothills' contested status left it to be reabsorbed back into the Kingdom of Lordaeron. With the pervasive sentiment that the Forsaken should be evicted from Lordaeron, is it really surprising that they have taken steps to ensure that doesn't happen?
Wrathkind Oct 30th 2011 9:43PM
@fudge "...I was pretty drunk, so it's not my fault."
There is a massive difference between being corrupted by fel power and being drunk. Cenarius presumably sees the difference between a magically subjugated army and the current Orcish population. He likely doesn't follow the whole "guilt by association" line of reasoning you are applying here.
Al Oct 30th 2011 10:01PM
"The successor to the throne of Lordaeron was Arthas, until he lost that crown to civil war. The transfer of power completed when the undead citizens chose to raise a new queen to that throne. Those who abandoned Lordaeron to its fate don't have a say in the resulting regime."
What about all the living people who fought to reclaim it? Oh yeah, Sylvanas slaughtered their leaders after they won and took over, with the survivors forming the Scarlets.
Wrathkind Oct 30th 2011 10:22PM
@Al "...Sylvanas slaughtered their leaders..."
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize anyone was crying over Garithos. This racist had no problems turning on the Blood Elves, so it's a bit surprising that he didn't see Sylvanas turning against him. You're right, though: Garithos and his men were doing sooo well under Detheroc's mind control before Sylvanas came to their rescue!
"... the survivors forming the Scarlets."
Thanks for the correction; I forgot that the Scarlet Crusade was an upstanding member of the Alliance, and not at all prone to being led by demons. Well, they do have that Alliance sanctuary in Tirisfal Glades (the Scarlet Monastery) where members of the Alliance are lovingly welcomed. They used to have Hearthglen, too, but for some reason the evil Argent Crusade has evicted them from there; I can't figure out why.
Al Oct 30th 2011 11:23PM
You seemed puzzled why the Lordaeron survivors had a problem with the Forsaken, I'm just saying that first impressions count.
"Thanks for the correction; I forgot that the Scarlet Crusade was an upstanding member of the Alliance, and not at all prone to being led by demons." Varimithras says "Sup?"
ThatGuy Oct 31st 2011 1:27AM
In every source i read, it was elves who drew first blood. and you make it seem like the Orcs knew the trees where sacred to the elves, or that they where living there. They started deforesting, the elves attacked, the orcs kicked their asses, so they sent in cenarius, cenarius was kicking their asses, so like in any conflict the losing team found a better weapon and won.
Secondly, I'd like to point out that the Aspect of LIFE is willing to destroy life if it protects other life. Cenarius is the guardian of nature, one of the most ruthless forces in the world. That Retcon IS canon, whether you want it to be or not, but just because Cenarius knew of one member of a strange species that was honorable, doesnt mean he will be any less wrathful when he thinks its warranted.
Its a simple fact, Cenarius killed orcs, orcs killed cenarius. Cenarius didnt die, orcs did. Saving all of nature is more important than the fact that Orcs made Cenarius go "poof" for awhile.
Wrathkind Oct 31st 2011 4:00AM
@Al "You seemed puzzled why the Lordaeron survivors had a problem with the Forsaken, I'm just saying that first impressions count."
No, I have an idea as to why Alliance have problems with the Forsaken, and I doubt it has anything to do with what happened with Garithos. I suspect it's because the Forsaken were Scourge for a while, and they embody the fall of Lordaeron and the evil that took root there. I'm sure there are many of the living who suspect that their relatives are now among the undead, and such Forsaken would understandably come across as abominable to their surviving relatives.
"Varimithras says 'Sup?'"
Varimathras never ruled the Forsaken; he was clearly Sylvanas' lapdog who bristled under her heel (she did force him to execute his own brother after all, faked as it was). However, to his credit, in the years that he spent chafing at her leash, he managed to bend the Apothecary Society to his cause, and that was clearly a failing on Sylvanas' part. Still, one failed coup attempt against Sylvanas does not take away from Saidan "Balnazaar" Dathrohan and Barean "Mal'ganis" Westwind's successful infiltrations into the Crusade's upper echelons.
fudge Oct 31st 2011 4:30AM
@Wrathkind
"There is a massive difference between being corrupted by fel power and being drunk."
True, but the orcs under Grom weren't corrupted, they drank the blood out of their own free will.
It's not like Mannoroth spiked Grom's drink and then had his way with him.
Instead, he figuratively wore a very revealing black dress, showed him the goods, leaned back on his leather couch, seductively offering Grom the cup while whispering "Wanna party?" in his ear.
Grom was very much aware what drinking the blood would do to him and his Horde. He took the deal, which is understandable in his situation, but let's just be clear on who's the aggressor (or "dick", as some prefer to call it) in that situation.
This is pretty much my biggest gripe with the Horde in it's current state. You're mostly a very blackish grey, with few spots of dirty white in it. That's fine. But don't pretend to be the good guys. Because you are not.