The fate of Neptulon, page 2

With Al'Akir and Ragnaros dead, their great power would be released into their respective elemental planes, unless Deathwing was already preparing a host for it similar to the Bindings of the Windseeker. The Bindings that once bound the essence of Thunderaan change everything when considering the "death" of elemental beings of great power like the lords. If Ragnaros couldn't consume the essence of Thunderaan, who was merely the son of a lord, can said essences be truly destroyed at all? Even if you can kill the elemental, you may still be able to capture its power, as Ragnaros tried to do.
Why did Cho'gall visit Princess Theradras just before mortal heroes came to destroy her? If Thunderaan couldn't be truly killed, why could the daughter of the Stonemother -- or is that the point of Cho'gall's visit? What if the purpose was never to kill them at all, but simply to use them to sculpt the face of Azeroth?
The power of Theradras, daughter of Therazane, joined to that of the Windlord himself and Ragnaros' control over the molten heart of the world would give Deathwing access to power sufficient to reshape land. But in order to move the face of the oceans, you'd need the power of Neptulon. It seems likely that the mighty kraken Ozumat was originally a primordial entity similar to the Merciless Ones who either willingly or through compulsion heeded the call of the Old Gods and turned against his nominal mastery. By usurping control of Neptulon, the final piece of the puzzle was in place. Killing or controlling Therazane would have been preferable, but without that, keeping her occupied after the shattering of the World Pillar meant that Theradras' stolen power could serve in her stead.
This means that at present, the Old Gods themselves are the most likely hosts for captive Neptulon, with Queen Azshara as the likely captor. After all, aside from Deathwing himself, no other servant of the Old Gods has the magical acumen to work such a complicated spell. Furthermore, since Deathwing was occupied with multiple efforts and Neptulon is the lord of the waters, Azshara becomes even more likely as his current jailor. Neptulon would be fortunate for it to be her and not his former masters directly. Azshara doesn't strike me as any more loyal to them than she is to anyone who isn't her.
Furthermore, Azshara's original involvement with the Burning Legion stemmed from her sense of aesthetics and perfection, as well as her pride in her own power. We are about to experience some of these events first hand in the Well of Eternity heroic dungeon.
Whatever Azshara wants, Azshara gets
Azshara's potential role in all this is interesting, because while it has been hinted for years that either Neptulon or the Old Gods were responsible for the transformation of the Kaldorei queen and her Highborne subjects when the Well of Eternity imploded and ripped ancient Kalimdor apart, that doesn't mean she's grateful to them. A being as vain, intelligent, manipulative and powerful as Azshara could well resent what has become of herself and her ancient kingdom. Azshara first considered herself a fit mate for Sargeras himself, an entity of power sufficient to help bind the Old Gods. Sargeras was once the champion of the Pantheon that rules the Titans and now in his fallen state rules and guides the Burning Legion. It was Azshara's attempt to help Sargeras reach Azeroth via the Well of Eternity that the Old Gods hijacked for their own use, and in so doing, helped cause the Sundering.
It's possible to imagine that in this case, each side believes it has the upper hand. The Old Gods may well seek to use Neptulon's power to help reshape the world and weaken the Titan's prison. We know that the very act of creating and shaping Azeroth seems to have helped bind the Old Gods within it, and perhaps it is the intent of the Old Gods to reshape it enough that they can then pull themselves free, or at least escape enough to resume their ancient, endless amusements by resuming the chaos of their own conflict. But is this in Azshara's interest? It's telling to note that despite helping distract Malfurion in Darkshore, she doesn't actually aid Soggoth the Slitherer in any way, nor does she take part in the attack on Mount Hyjal. While the Naga certainly assail the Throne of the Tides, Azshara makes no appearance here, either.
It's quite possible to imaghine that as soon as Ozumat delivered Neptulon to his fate, Azshara would have no more need to help the Old Gods with their plans. After all, the Old Gods tend to be chaotic, unfathomable entities, while Azshara sees herself as perfect. Why would she want to live in a world ruled by them? With Neptulon in her grasp, she'd have access to the same kind of control over the oceans that destroyed the Gurubashi millennia ago, once she broke his will. Total control over the ocean certainly sounds like it would appeal to the aquatic Naga and reminds us (on a much larger scale) of the actions of Lady Vashj in Serpentshrine Caverns.
The return of the Legion
There could be even more to it, however.
During his abortive attempt to usurp control of Undercity, Varimathras went through an elaborate ritual to allow something to enter Azeroth. Whatever this being was, it was so fearsome that Varimathras called it "master." Despite opening multiple portals throughout the throne room of the Undercity, Varimathras was unable to summon his master through before Thrall and Sylvanas attacked him.
Now, Azshara was responsible for the ancient Quel'dorei's attempt to summon Sargeras through the original Well of Eternity, an effort that nearly succeeded. Now, without access to the new Well atop Mount Hyjal, how could she possibly summon Sargeras through? Well, for starters, she's more skilled with magic than just about any living Azerothian, having had thousands upon thousands of years to perfect her craft (and she was considered one of the best spellcasters her people had when she was Queen of the Kaldorei).
But now consider that Neptulon seems capable of bypassing the Titan's wards that hold the elemental lords in their prisons. Where Ragnaros had to be summoned and was considerably weakened in that summoning, Neptulon simply seems able to manifest at will. Even before the Abyssal Rift was opened, Neptulon appeared to destroy the Gurubashi.
What is it that capacity that Azshara intends to make use of? She'd think nothing of making any promise the Old Gods asked and then subtly do her best to ensure their plans failed (while possibly steering the effects of the Cataclysm to maximize her own benefit) and once the Old Gods and their chief minion Deathwing were occupied with their destructive nonsense and abject chaos, she would be free to act and use Neptulon's special ability to travel between worlds to bring Sargeras back through to Azeroth again. It could take months, years, decades... but what is time to her, after all? And since no one but the servants of the Old Gods (who she expects to be abjectly defeated) knows she has the Tidehunter, there's no one to even come looking to stop her until it's too late.
Neptulon would not willingly submit control of any portion of his poiwer, of course. But if Azshara could twist Ozumat to her will (by the Old God's command, or her own power), then it may only be a matter of that same time she has so much of until he submits, willingly or no. And if he should, at the least the Queen of the Naga will rule the entirety of Azeroth's oceans.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 4)
Sir William Nov 2nd 2011 4:04PM
Thanks for the links and those are great reads :).
Ilmyrn Nov 2nd 2011 3:24PM
It's worth pointing out that the Kraken credited with destroying the Gurubashi empire is completely different from the Kraken we see in game. The Troll tablets described it as some sort of gargantuan water elemental with whole forests of kelp swaying in its arms and whales swimming through its body. I know the old Warcaft RPG suggested that there were two kinds of kraken: some sort of elemental creature that served Neptulon, and regular big things living in the ocean.
As for Neptulon being able to escape the Elemental Planes without being summoned, since we know that using arcane magic weakens the barriers between Azeroth and the Nether (the ultimate source of Arcane energies), isn't it likely that elemental magic on a grand enough scale (Like what the Gurubashi were up to?) would have a similar effect on the barrier between the material world and the elemental planes?
Goblinsgoboom Nov 3rd 2011 3:30PM
Excellent point. Also it could mean that Azshara is working up some prime magic beneath the seas.
I always assumed that the reason that Neptulon didn't need to be summoned was that somewhere beneath the deep was a spot where the waters of the Elemental Plane mixed with those of Azeroth.
Come to think of it how did the Stone Mother's ugly daughter make it past the whole elemental round up thing to make the centaur?
Stabaa Nov 2nd 2011 3:26PM
This was a very interesting read and further reminded me of plot points in previous expansions that still need to be addressed.
Kinda feel a bit sick of the whole thing blizzard does where X used to be good and got corrupted by Y and is now Boss Z.
LynMars Nov 2nd 2011 4:10PM
At least in Ulduar we were able to save 4 of those guys, instead of killing them.
jfofla Nov 2nd 2011 3:26PM
So great to hear Anne say in her Podcast that Metzen is a fan of Tin Foil Hat!
KUDOS to Stickney and Rossi!
Kunikenwad! Nov 2nd 2011 3:41PM
Linky the podcast so we can hears it with our ear-parts!
jfofla Nov 2nd 2011 4:29PM
http://www.allthingsazeroth.com/2011/10/ata0267/
The Dewd Nov 2nd 2011 5:17PM
That could be very very dangerous.
Lowlight Nov 2nd 2011 3:27PM
Here's my theory:
We were supposed to save him in the scrapped Vaj'Shir raid. Blizzard took way too long with the Firelands and the subscriber numbers dropped. Pressure loomed large to wrap Cata up fast and move on. Blizzard said: "Eh, underwater dungeons are annoying anyway, and besides, at the end of Throne most people missed him getting recaptured because they were too busy running to the treasure chest in the middle of the room."
Thus, there is no official idea, and if they ever get back to Neptulon you can be pretty sure it'll be a "Oh hey, the king's back!" kinda moment.
Joe Nov 2nd 2011 4:07PM
Yeah, I've noticed that Blizzard has a pretty uneven record when it comes to seizing on potential epic events in the setting.
Sometimes things come to a big payoff, sometimes the payoff only happens in the books and is barely acknowledged in the game (boo), and sometimes the storyline is just dropped or just fizzles out.
Deathknighty Nov 2nd 2011 4:28PM
Personally, I think they were going to develop his story much further with an Abyssal Maw raid, but ultimately finish his story in a future Azshara expansion, but development issues etc made them say, "fuck it, we'll just sort it out then".
Also, the patch 4.3 dungeons were probably planned to be the second raid in T13 originally.
jealouspirate Nov 2nd 2011 3:35PM
Based on Blizzard's history, we don't really need elaborate conspiracy theories. Neptulon goes crazy/gets corrupted and voila, a raid boss! The end.
Mega Nov 2nd 2011 3:36PM
Never crossed my mind, probably obvious but I guess the Krakens are beast of the old gods, being able to do the same trick as the merciless ones.
Mega Nov 2nd 2011 3:38PM
Durr, and if would of read the second page first all the way... /sigh
Kylenne Nov 2nd 2011 3:36PM
I was pretty much with you until you brought Sargeras and the Legion into it. I'm not really sure exactly why Azshara would even care about Sargeras at this point. I rather doubt Azshara-Empress-of-Nazjatar is going to settle for being his moll now, not after she's been worshipped for ten thousand years as the queen of the deeps. She sees herself as power and perfection incarnate, and I think she might even believe Sargeras was beneath her at this point. I think she still wants revenge on the Night Elves for fucking up her plans, but I don't see her especially caring about the Legion anymore. Just in terms of power levels, when she was mortal she was said to be around KJ and Archie, and she's only gotten more powerful when you consider Naga mutations stem in part from the lingering Well energies around the Maelstrom.
Re: her connection to Neptulon, my personal fanon is that he actually had nothing to do with the Naga curse, it was all N'Zoth. But Azshara's ego and pride couldn't abide such a thing (a last-ditch deal cut in desperation to keep her alive would make her look weak and ineffectual), so she concocted a lie--either intentionally, or believed it in her own delusion--about Neptulon falling in love with her and giving her a new form that reflected her glory as queen of the deeps, which then became a foundational myth of her cult. This explains why some of the Naga revere Neptulon. But at some point, likely about the time Neptulon started going rogue, N'Zoth started nudging her away from that. N'Zoth's been whispering in her head for several thousand years encouraging her narcissism and batshit insanity (possibly even before the Sundering), and it's created a monster it can't control anymore, I think. If it ever really could. Azshara's cunning as hell and probably the most powerful spellcaster on Azeroth right now.
The Old Gods might be interested in Neptulon's ability to "prison break" as it were, if it's something he has, but we're in agreement that Azshara's not going to give him up. But I don't think it's because she wants to use that power for herself to summon Sargeras. I think taking control of him is an object lesson: Azshara's the HBIC now, and the oceans are only the beginning.
Luke Nov 2nd 2011 4:06PM
I really think that Neptulon's prison break is because he is so connected with the life on Azeroth and that is what makes him the most powerful elemental lord.
ColbaneX Nov 2nd 2011 7:34PM
Personally I think you are wrong about her being On KJ or Arch's level. I would put her on Velen's level. Why? They both are spellcasters (yes I know Velen is a Priest...technically) and they are both several TENS of thousands of years old. However, Velen was on the level of KJ and Archimonde back when they were the leaders of the Eredar people, it wouldn't have made sense otherwise. When Big Ol' Sargey gave them demonic power it bumped them up several notches, otherwise Velen could have taken them. Hell, Malfurion had to sacrifice millions of Night Elf Wisps AND their immortality to take out Archimonde. WE barely managed to push KJ back through the Soulwell. Ashzara is a cakewalk compared to those two, and those two are way beneath Sargeras. I thoroughly doubt she thinks Sarg is beneath her.
ColbaneX Nov 2nd 2011 7:38PM
Sunwell* Damn Warlocks hijacking my fingers.
Killik Nov 3rd 2011 8:11AM
Back pre-Shattering, Azshara's power was described as beyond anyone Mannoroth was aware of, except KillyJ, Archy and Sargeras. She's probably stronger since then, but how much is anyone's guess. As powerful as she needs to be for her story to work, of course.