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11-06-2011 @ 8:13AM
This was honestly part of what I liked about Warcraft 3. However, I really don't see it happening in WoW. The whole game has been balanced and designed around two factions. They would have to renovate every zone in the game to have tis change make sense and I don't see them doing that again anytime soon. It will be interesting to see what kind of factions, if any, will exist in Titan. Personally, I think they may just do away with them all together in their next mmo. All they really serve to do is create an atmosphere for world PVP that no one wants to partake in and divide players from one another. It's a neat idea but I don't necessarily thinks its accomplished what it was originally designed for.
11-06-2011 @ 9:45AM
"All they really serve to do is create an atmosphere for world PVP that no one wants to partake in"Really? I wouldn't say that. I personally love Open World PvP and wish we had more of it. Maybe I'm just alone here. ;)
11-06-2011 @ 11:04AM
I suspect there are servers that might actually cater to world pvp; I believe they're called "PVP servers".The rest of us would like to play uninterrupted by the idiocy of dead vendors, flight masters and auctioneers. Oh, wait, the devs are actually trying to encourage that in the new panda zones.For some strange reason I see the number of cancelled subs going above 900k.
11-06-2011 @ 11:05AM
Not to mention the headache of splitting up the factions. The way I see it either the lore would have to support factions that are not split down race lines or force players that are of a specific race away from their friends of another race. Can you imagine how mad that Undead Warrior would be because his Tauren Paladin buddy can't heal him in dungeons any more because Sylvanas went off the deep end?
11-06-2011 @ 12:08PM
@ SamLowry...Chicken Little says "Hi".The Devs may be trying to "encourage" more world pvp, but that does not mean that you will have to engage in this activity if you don't want to. I don't know what the new zones will look like, or how they will implement world pvp in those zones, but I do know that Blizz does not force any aspect of the game on its players. You can always choose to participate in the parts of the game you like the most, and not participate in the parts you hate with little or no penalty.
11-06-2011 @ 12:29PM
Well there are certainly plenty of people who like world PvP (present company included) but I think most trends in this game point to it becoming less of a desirable way to spend one's time leveling or at the end game. Most players that are into PvP will go into BG's or arenas. Then you have the great majority of WoW players that prefer to PvE, raid, and login to PvE servers so that they never have to deal with fighting the opposite faction. There was a period in vanilla wow when world PvP was one of the main ways to play the game but I'd argue that for most of WoW's existence it's been relatively low priority from both a developer and player perspective. We'll see how that changes in MoP. I'm sure there are a lot of ways the developers can encourage people to fight in the world. The question is whether or not players will want to do this. I'm really of the opinion that most players log on WoW to conveniently consume PvE content as fast and relaxingly as possible. Not too many players quit or leave servers because they aren't getting ganked enough. Maybe factions will mean something more in the next expansion and people will really enjoy killing each other in the open world again. All I know is that in the game's current state where you get fight your own faction in BG's, play both factions on a PvP server, chat with the opposite faction via bnet, and level through the whole game in dungeons, factions don't mean as much from a gameplay perspective as they once did.
11-06-2011 @ 2:14PM
People don't want world PvP, even if you give them really cool mounts for it.Otherwise Halaa would be a warzone instead of.../sunglasses...a snore zone.
11-06-2011 @ 3:04PM
Even most pvp servers don't have a lot of world pvp =/ I've LOVE a third faction to help balance things out, and I was expecting that in this expansion, but... I think folks need to support the games that go with the 3 faction system before WoW will go in that direction.
11-06-2011 @ 6:37PM
@Khirsah:Have you ever heard about the "School of Hard Knocks" achievement? Blizzard do force play styles unto players.It's what I think made the player base drop during Cataclysm. Blizzard forcing players that were quite happy casually raiding, or even just running random heroics, into a more hardcore play style.As for MoP, at Blizzcon it was confirmed that the player hubs in Pandaria would not be sanctuaries, would be smaller, and would be more subject to PvP attacks (due to the guards being weaker). Blizzard wants to "encourage" more world PvP (which is just a nice way of saying they want to force players into it).For my part, what this means is that the chance of me purchasing MoP at launch became virtually nill. I don't want to be subject to increased world PvP, so I will wait until after the launch, while lurking in forums and sites like here, to see how the PvP situation evolves.
11-06-2011 @ 11:00PM
DarkWalker, thank you for straightening Khirsah out. I agree with everything you said and I also have no interest in being forced to stand around and wait for quest-givers and JP vendors to rez after being slaughtered for the tenth time today.I complained repeatedly on the boards about the Horde's compulsion to kill the Southshore flight master, and so the devs fixed the situation for good by giving them the city entirely. That's not exactly what I consider "progress".
11-07-2011 @ 9:00AM
LOLWHAT? Open world PvP that no one wants to participate in?! Buddy, wake up!! I play this game for freaking world PvP. And not just me - WE have spent countless hours prowling Orgrimmar, decimating questing hubs and flying back and forth responding to anti-ganker calls. Hellfire, Quel'Danas, Nagrand, Wintergrasp, Tol Barad, Molten freaking Front, I fought on ground, underwater and even in air, back when it was still possible to 4-shot people. Crawl back to your PvE server if you don't like PvP. This game (and MMOS in general) needs more world PvP, not less. Jesus Christ.
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