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11-16-2011 @ 3:25PM
Hey I didn't say that he had to go all Happy Fun Time Propaganda! :) I was merely pointing out that he was being awfully pessimistic (again with the "...will fail..." quote) considering the small sample size and that there was some level of success by those groups.On thing to keep in mind is to compare this to the general gnashing of teeth about how hard heroics were at the beginning of cata and to consider how easy they are now: I have no doubt that the community will get better as time goes on: experience with the encounters will increase, as will ilevels.I find it interesting that you would write that last paragraph, as it is the exact polar opposite of the paragraph I would write. I pug with a bear tank, and I can honestly say that the number of awful runs is VASTLY outweighed by the number of decent runs, and in fact, is even outnumbered by the truly epic runs (i.e. successful Bear Mount run). As such, I see it EXACTLY as a cultural phenomenon that is imitated and replicated throughout the community (in this case as a form of friendly commiseration, and/or self righteousness)Certainly awful runs occur, but I can honestly not remember when I was in a fail group that wasn't solvable with patience and/or the kicking of a single member. I guess it depends a lot on your perspective and a bit on luck... Perhaps one (or both!) of us is/are suffering from Confirmation Bias? That's actually one of the reasons that I would LOVE to see either a large scale community based study to get hard numbers on the subjective PuG experience, OR an in-game rating system for players/runs in the LFD tool.
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