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11-18-2011 @ 10:57AM
If you ever used QuickAuctions or Zero Auctions.. Trade Skill Master is the addon that succeeded them. It uses them as the base and branches off from there.It's definitely got a bit of a learning curve. Only last night, after boggling about why my mysterious fortune cards weren't posting, I learned that TSM does things by individual item.. even when you have stacks of 10, 20, or 200. I was setting it up:Post 10 cards per auction until the competition posts cards under 100g.Which wasn't working. Because all of my competition was posting under 100g per *card*.So I had to figure out what i needed to set TSM up for was:Post 10 cards per auction until the competition posts the value of each card in the stack below 10g.woot, now my cards post.
11-18-2011 @ 11:10AM
TSM is not a successor to QA at all. it only recycled one tiny part of the once glorious addon, and then merged that one part with a steaming mess of code.If I could just use QA and auctionator, I would. as it stands, you can't do that in large part because the TSM crew established itself as the main supporter of QA when its dev left, then instead of continuing to support the project properly, cannibalized it for their own crappy project.Just because TSM is the only thing out left, doesnt mean TSM is actually any good.
11-18-2011 @ 11:25AM
@gewalt ....... srsly? Why don't you go over there and clean it up then? yeah, the usability of TSM and efficiency of manipulating the rules is kinda crack headed and nowhere near polished. But that's not their aim. They're not trying to make the slickest AH automation tool out there, they're trying to make it get you the most bang for your ... buck? time? yeah. To them, and anyone who actually wants to make money, that means it's ok to invest some time in learning how to use it however they hacked it together, if they hack together all the functions we need daily.How about offering your clearly amazing services to help them polish it up. TBH you'll probably get more praise than the current developers if you do. Everyone will love the new generation of TSM that's sleek and polished, despite not making them any more gold or really doing anything but looking pretty... once you figure it out, it's not that bad, and you'll get the time invested in learning it back within a week if you do more than a few auctions. I'll take extra functionality over slick code and ui anyday if the choice must be made. They're obviously very limited on the time and resources they can spend on developing it.So get on it, scoot, make it pretty!
11-18-2011 @ 12:17PM
@gewaltSo.. I disagree with you. If you install TSM and the Auctioning module.. it works exactly the way QA and ZeroAuctions did.Is it more ugly? yes. The UI is horrible. Does it do the same thing QA did in the same manner that QA did? Yes. It's in just a less prettier package.My point was that if you had some experience with QA.. you have a head start with using TSM.I only just started using TSM this past month, but picked it up quickly because of my experiences using QA.I will say that I don't think you need TSM unless you're doing large amounts of auction posting. Such as posting hundreds of Glyphs. I honestly and truly don't want to work out all the math for posting that many Glyphs. Glyph making is already a giant time sink before you even get to the posting part.
11-18-2011 @ 12:32PM
"I will say that I don't think you need TSM unless you're doing large amounts of auction posting. Such as posting hundreds of Glyphs. I honestly and truly don't want to work out all the math for posting that many Glyphs. Glyph making is already a giant time sink before you even get to the posting part."This is why the combination of Undermine Journal and TSM is so deadly. I don't even bother canceling and re-posting these days. On posting days I only post when my competition doesn't. And re-post only once, but I don't bother canceling, it's pointless and time consuming.I only post a couple of each glyph at a time and I post only the most profitable, (anything over 40g). You can use TSM to save a lot of time by not crafting tons of glyphs that only net a few gold profit. Your time losses come from over-crafting and canceling.That said I use TSM to post just about everything, it means I can spend less time and cover way more markets. Less time, mo profit, ftw.
11-18-2011 @ 11:14PM
@gewalt I'm pretty sure TSM is actually awesome and you're just wrong.
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