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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
11-20-2011 @ 4:10PM
Badmedecine said...
Now if every single alliance complainer could be forced to read this article... *sigh*
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11-20-2011 @ 4:20PM
Muse said...
Now if the person who wrote the article had actually read anything the Alliance complainers had been writing about this. We've been over this a hundred times already.
11-20-2011 @ 4:42PM
Imnick said...
I've read pretty much no topics whining about Theramore that addressed any of this post
11-20-2011 @ 5:11PM
Muse said...
Try actually reading some? I recommend page 104, 108, and 226, in
us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3430805957 . Or go back here on WoW-insider to the articles asking whether or not there's favouritism for the Horde and read the blue-stared posts.
wow.joystiq.com/2011/10/28/today-in-wow/
wow.joystiq.com/2011/10/24/zarhym-weighs-in-on-theramore-rumors-in-mists-of-pandaria/
wow.joystiq.com/2011/10/26/breakfast-topic-blizzards-horde-bias-fact-or-delusion/
If it's been thought of, it's been said.
11-20-2011 @ 6:10PM
DragonFireKai said...
http://childrenofwrath.blogspot.com/2011/10/misteps-in-cataclysm-misfired-story.html
That post pretty much explains why Blizzard is making a mistake with this storyline.
11-20-2011 @ 9:21PM
Skarn said...
Huh. I really liked that link, DragonFireKai! It highlights my biggest problem with WoW. So many people time and again spout the line "where is the war in Warcraft?" because they want some sort of Alliance/Horde conflict. The problem with that is that it can't end. There's no way for one side to win or lose or the game as we know it is destroyed. If the Alliance loses everything, that's half the playerbase that quits because they don't want to be the other side. An Alliance/Horde war story is ultimately untenable since it can not have a true resolution. It inevitably must end at another stalemate.
The linked post goes into much better detail than I do, so suffice it to say that I agree and I encourage everyone to read it.
11-21-2011 @ 5:40AM
Pyromelter said...
There is a point I'd like to make about "storytelling" v. "mmo." In an MMO, you are limited by the the fact that you have to have balance between the factions (that would be balance in terms of classes, racial abilities, quest opportunities, and moments for cool lore). While someone above stated that having a story be unfair is good, you can't shoe-horn that into an MMO property.
The point and suggestion I have made and will continue to make is that blizzard needs a warcraft 4, or at least some kind of single-player campaign. I believe there is a litany of reasons for this (the main reasons being we need new heroes, especially alliance heroes, as well as new villains, and we need to play as those heroes in villains in a storybook RPG or RTSRPG). Blizzard absolutely shines at telling stories through RTS campaigns, one need only to look at the recent example of Starcraft 2.
The problem with WoW as I see is that too much lore and hero stories are going on outside of the game in novels, and the playerbase is not creating emotional connections with them. Do we love thrall because he is some kind of hero we aspire to be? Or do we love him because we kicked ass playing as him, and saved the world along with Jaina and the night elves on Mt. Hyjal in W3? Did we hate Arthas because he was the big bad, or were we conflicted because we played out his life story in a riveting game?
I think the answer here is obvious, and I will continue to maintain that until blizzard puts out another single-player RTS or RPG to advance and create new stories, World of Warcraft will continue to be hamstrung by it's current need for balance between the factions.
11-21-2011 @ 7:12AM
Luke said...
Oh Alliance... you're just making more Celestial Steeds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVal6o6bzZ8