The WoW Insider Show Episode 222: Patch 4.3
by Adam Holisky 
Nov 29th 2011 at 10:30AM
This week's topics include:
- Faction favoritism
- The Aubrey commercial
- Some great reader emails and tweets
Bellajtok asked:
Where do the Naaru stand on the Warcraft power scale? Like, in comparison to elementals, pit lords, etc.
Balten asked:
I recalled in an earlier "The Queue" that someone asked why their were no DK Pandas. The response was something to the fact of " How many Panadren(s) did you see fighting at the Wrath Gate? None, so thats why."
My question is thus, I dont recall there being any Goblins or Worgens at the Wrath Gate either yet we have the option of making DKs for them. Is there someother reason why we can't make Panda Dks? Or has my memory faded and there were Goblins and Worgen present?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Michael Sacco Nov 28th 2011 7:01PM
Aubrey *____*
mem0ryburn Nov 29th 2011 11:44AM
Sweet, lovely Aubrey. Oh to be the one to whom you roll your lovely eyes day in and day out
peaceful_chaos Nov 29th 2011 10:59AM
Voice acting in SW:TOR... ugh, no we don't need 5 minutes of cutscenes in WoW just to tell me I need to kill 8 boars. The only thing I want added to WoW from that game is AoE looting.
Mathew McCurley Nov 29th 2011 12:06PM
I don't think WoW would benefit from full voice acting. I do however think WoW would benefit from voice acting in more places.
csturner357 Nov 29th 2011 12:35PM
AoE Looting, yes, please
Piper Nov 29th 2011 3:39PM
Most of the "Kill 'x' mob" quest were bonus quest you got automatically when you killed the first one. The quest appeared in your mission log without needing to accept or do anything. That was very nice and I wish Wow handled those types of quests as slickly.
Where the voice acting shined was for the class and story quests. There's a place Blizzard really, truly needs to swipe from Bioware. My character felt far more important leveling than all the quests I've ever done in Wow (inlcuding the AQ gates quest chain). If, and this is a big unknown at the moment, if the endgame is on-par or reasonably close to Wow's endgame then Blizzard has its first serious competitor.
Turtell Nov 29th 2011 4:28PM
also, you can skip the cutscenes by pressing space bar... soooooo, yup.
Blayze Nov 29th 2011 7:58PM
I'm extremely interested in the story. However, I'm leery of Bioware these days.
Luotian Nov 29th 2011 9:43PM
Lol, I keep getting so confused as to why people are using my name (as I would rather stab out my own eyes than watch 'Parks and Rec' and so I had no idea at all who she was).
You know what guys? I love this episode. Like....a lot. Because you got really down to earth and personal without getting to heavy I guess. I liked it quite a lot, and I thought it was fun switching between the serious stuff and the stuff that was giggle-worthy. Excellent show, guys!
P.S. Random question: Does Frosthiem really say "However comma" when he's off air? I'm just curious if you guys know.
umbob33 Nov 29th 2011 11:43AM
Please add the actual mp3 to the RSS feed
RuzGofDI Nov 29th 2011 12:40PM
Okay, maybe not alot of Thrall in Mists, but can he talk enough to chew out Garrosh? Like at the end of the expansion? Something along the lines of "You killed Cairne and attacked Jaina's home and *something else here*! Prepair to die!" Please?
evoxpisces Nov 29th 2011 1:26PM
I played Skyrim all Thanksgiving weekend :)
razion Nov 29th 2011 1:28PM
There were slew of Pandaren mercenaries in the old RTSs that were usable. It stands to reason that there have been Pandaren mercenaries fighting on the front line of every major expansion.
And besides, Arthas isn't the sole option of creating Death-Knights. Who's to say the Death-Knights of Archerus can't recruit new knights into the fold? When there's a will for a race and class combination, there's always a way.
Silversol Nov 29th 2011 1:52PM
Why are they so mad at the commenters? :(
Silversol Nov 29th 2011 1:52PM
(forgot the disclaimer: this was a joke)
Knob Nov 29th 2011 2:24PM
It's Osiris that weighs your heart for guilt against a feather on the scales Mat, not Anubis. Supernatural taught me that!
Matthew Rossi Nov 29th 2011 3:54PM
Osiris stole the job during the transition between the Ramesid kings and the later (1200 BC to 1000 BC) rulers. Anubis was the most important god of the dead before Osiris became prominent, and he was the one who performed all the measurements at that time.
Blayze Nov 29th 2011 2:41PM
We don't even get to sack Taurajo. D:
Why don't we get to do the bad things we're told we did?
Blayze Nov 29th 2011 3:00PM
And if Thrall does anything other than die during the post-Deathwing cinematic...
Gaurisk Nov 29th 2011 4:19PM
The Horde don't win in Ashenvale. The fight is still going on when you leave. At no point is there a "cover our retreat" quest. At no point do you see quest hub after quest hub filled with Ashenvale refugee NPC's. You don't leave because the fight is over and the Alliance lost; you leave because someone should stop the bomb flying south to Stonetalon. The fact that you don't stay to end it doesn't make it an Alliance loss.
The bodies of the Camp Taurajo NPC's haven't been buried. Horde do at least get a quest to perform funeral rites over the corpses of the pre-cataclysm Flight Master, Innkeeper, and and Skinning Triner.
The Horde doesn't win in Stonetalon. They're so stymied by Alliance counteroffensives that Krom'Gar bombs a neutral target just so he can say he produced results. He pays for it with his life. Nobody wins in Stonetalon.
The Alliance gets the same quests from the Cenarions and the Centaur that the Horde do. The Horde in Desolace have every quest that used to come out of Shadowprey Village removed and handed to the Cenarions.
Pretty much everything from 1-60 on Kalimdor is a correction of an old model that entirely favored the Alliance in quality of quantity of quality of quests and quest zones. Do you remember why Crossroads and Tarren Mill were raid targets? Because those two quest hubs were the two bottlenecks that every new Horde character had to pass through.
So how many bones does the Alliance need to have thrown to them? And what, specifically what, bones do you want to see?
I'm an Alliance player. Do you want to know what I've done in the past year that gives me a sense of faction pride? I've been helping refugees in Darkshore. I've been fighting to turn the tide against unchecked aggression in Ashenvale and Stonetalon. I fought Cho'gall alongside the first generation of Gilnean Sentinels, lieutenants of Shandris. I've been thwarting the creation of a new axis of murlocs, gnolls, and kobolds in Loch Modan. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I could have sworn that the entire last tier of content was about the Night Elf demigods coming back. In short, I've been fighting the good fight. Have you not been doing the same?
This hasn't been an entire expansion of the Alliance reeling and passing out over the turkey. It's been an entire expansion of the alliance needing heroes. That's where you come in.
Kosak's "imagine if we'd had orc forums" (in Warcraft II) is right on point. The game has two factions, and everything Blizzard has done in the last two expansions tocast the Horde as villains again has only reinforced the sense of entitlement I see among people I play with. It is absolutely bizarre to see the mechanism of privilege play itself out in a fictional setting like this.