Player blasts free from overweight gamer stereotype

Teeth-gritting stereotypes aside, the intersection of fitness and gaming is something we've covered a fair amount here at WoW Insider. There's the player who set up a system of "leveling down" as he lost weight, although a visit to his blog these days doesn't turn up much action. There's the player who lost 100 pounds on a treadmill while he played WoW, before such exercise setups were relatively common. We even ran an entire series last year on shaping up, Buffing for BlizzCon.
What we haven't run yet is a story on a gamer who's taken the weight off and kept it off while not only piling on new interests and active pursuits but also maintaining his love of WoW and gaming. A WoW player since the days of the original beta, Jonathan (aka Thundertotem) was a finalist in Subway Canada's Commit to Fit Ambassador search. While he wasn't ultimately chosen as the Subway representative and spokesperson, he says he remains a hardcore gamer even with his weight loss and fitness success.

Guild Kindread
Realm Kel'Thuzad (US)
WoW Insider: Tell us about your journey to lose weight and shape up. What kicked off the entire campaign?
Jonathan: [Editor's note: This first reply is excerpted from Jonathan's entry for the Commit to Fit Ambassador contest.] In 2004 at age 22, I weighed approximately 330 pounds (I stopped weighing myself around then) when I came to the understanding in my heart that I was not happy with my health and something needed to change. As a cry for help, I went to a local physician and talked about my health with him. He had me take some blood tests to see where I was. When the results came in, he revealed that I was about 90% on the way to being diabetic. He read me the riot act and told me things needed to change. Change they did.
Over the summer, I started to reduce my calorie intake. What started with better eating quickly turned into a crash diet. I eventually was down to eating 1,000 calories a day -- 200 calories of cereal in the morning, a small sandwich at lunch, and a regular dinner (minus anything that looked like real calories).
Fourteen months later, I weighed somewhere in the range of 180 pounds. With the rapid weight loss came the excess skin around my arms, thighs, and waist. I carried a lot of weight around my sides and back, which left what could be described as a large fanny pack around my back.
I knew I wanted to shed the extra skin. After seeing a surgeon, I was informed that I would need two surgeries to remove the skin around my waist. The arms and legs were considered too complicated and costly to do anything about. The abdominoplasty in the front and the belt lipectomy in the back would be done over two separate four-and-a-half-hour surgeries and would cost somewhere in the range of $8,000 each. I was fresh out of university at the time and underemployed, so I said "thank you very much" and tried to get the hope of ever removing the excess skin out of my head.

I again decided being big was not what I wanted and I started to lose weight again. This time, the plan was to do it the right way (diet and exercise combined). It took me two months to work up the courage and willpower to start again. I knew that it would take minimum [of] two years to lose the weight properly.
I entered a basic fitness program at the university called TrymGym. By September 2009, I was about 240 pounds. I started a program of exercise that included weight training and cardio with a trainer. I eventually was training in a gym three days a week. I started seeing a personal trainer once a week to help keep me motivated. Jay, the trainer, was an amazing help and support. His positive attitude and workouts were fantastic.
In the spring of 2010, I started to play hockey again as a goalie. My long-time high school friends called me one day and invited me onto their summer team. It meant a great deal then and still means a great deal now. They gave me an opportunity to belong to a group of guys that I had wanted to be a part of for so long. We have had lots of success in our first two seasons together. Last year we made it to the league final.
In June 2010, I took up half-marathon running. My uncle thought my level of fitness at the time mean I could handle the training. He was right. I was invigorated by running. We signed up for a half-marathon program at the Eau Claire running room location and never looked back. Much like my hockey, my running group became another team. I felt and still feel an immense loyalty to them. The structure of the running program made it easy to follow and relatively easy to train for with the right motivation.
I have worked full time as a fundraiser for a cancer charity for the last four years. The stable salary meant I could look towards funding the skin reduction surgeries on my own with the benefit of savings. In August, I saw the surgeon again and walked out with two surgery appointments. The total cost of the surgeries was estimated at $25,000.In late November, I went under the knife for five hours. I was given a spinal anesthetic that made me numb up through my chest for the duration of the surgery. This meant that I was fully awake (I could move my arms and head) for the duration of the procedure. They told me to bring an iPod to the surgery beforehand (I did not), which makes a lot more sense in hindsight. I could feel them tug and pull for the duration. It was a little surreal. The second, six-hour surgery on the back took place in January. This time, the spinal wore off a little too soon and I could feel them suture me back up with great discomfort. It was honestly very painful.
I am writing ... today wearing pants that fit fully around my waist for the first time since grade I now wear small size shirts. I finally have muscle definition in my front, and I no longer have to deal with the pain and irritation of a large amount of excess skin flapping up and down as I run. Most of all, I know that having 8 pounds of skin cut off my body with have a large impact on my overall health moving forward. I now weigh under 175 pounds and look a lot like a guy who runs a little too much.
Wow, what a story! So how much weight have you lost? How has that changed your life overall?
I lost about 150 pounds the first attempt. I gained back 100, and then lost that. So I have lost over 250 pounds in my life.
Life has been amazing since losing the weight. Everything is better, from how I sleep, to my interactions with friends and acquaintances, to girls.
What was the secret to your final success, in a nutshell?In a nutshell, it was eating better and exercising. More broadly, it was coming to an understanding that I wanted more out of life. I have started to do many thing since losing the weight (DJing, running) that motivate me every day to stay healthy.
Many people advise simply giving up hobbies such a gaming altogether when you're embarking upon a serious effort to lose a great deal of weight. How and why have you managed to keep WoW a part of your regular activities?
I consider WoW as one of the major factors in helping me lose weight the first time. It engaged me on a level that helped distract me from the constant hunger that came with crash dieting.
My view now is that everything is about balance. I still consider myself a hardcore gamer and do play games, but I am much more willing to try new activities and have incorporated many of those into my routine. As I mentioned above, all of those activities keep me motivated to stay healthy. One of the realities, I feel, is that if you really want to lose weight and live healthier, you have to make many changes to your approach to life. Don't throw the old away, but make sure to bring a lot of new things in. When I bounced back after the first time losing weight, I think it was a lot to do with me being the same person with the same outlook.
Has your lifestyle change permanently changed your relationship with WoW and gaming?
I do game less than before. Losing weight the second time and doing other activities such as DJing meant I could not commit to a regular raid schedule. As a result, I stopped raiding post Wrath. I really do enjoy that aspect of the game, but I have not made attempts to raid casually since.

I always flip between enhancement and resto. I enjoyed raiding and raided through Wrath. I did 2v2 PvP in Wrath and was moderately successful. I enjoy leveling alts quite a bit and have eight characters and minimum level 70. I did dive into elemental briefly for Crusaders' Coliseum.
When I was most active, I was playing up to 8+ hours a day. Lately it has been down to an hour or two at the very most. I am currently overseas volunteering in Rwanda, and the fact I can send an email is a victory. So I have not been playing over the last little bit.
What else is different for you now that you're back in shape?
A great deal is different. I have a much more positive outlook. I do many more activities and know a lot more people. I really look towards the future in a much more open way than before. I try many new things and look for new and different experiences all the time. Going for a walk with a new friend or traveling to a new destination in the world all has come from my new outlook.
Look for more updates and inspiration from Jonathan on his blog.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Welldead Dec 1st 2011 2:13PM
Incredible. Losing 250 pounds it is a big achievement. I salute you for that. I might even try what he did starting next week. i need a break from the wowie :)
MattKrotzer Dec 1st 2011 2:14PM
Congratulations, Johnathan!
As a fellow weight-losing gamer, I'm very proud of your efforts! Keep up the great work!
My goal is to get back to 185, which is what I weighed in high school. (Albeit, far more muscle tone back then.) I'm down to 195 (from around 235) and can't believe how much better I feel! I hope to hit that goal by March, which will be one year from when I started.
Welldead Dec 1st 2011 2:36PM
i am also trying to reach my goal of 175 but apparently since im still 18 and apparently 180 pounds is perfect, i stand at 195, so idk if i should go for the 170-175 or go for the 180? what do you think? also my friend she tried to do a diet of drinking a full glass of water to the top and wait 40 minutes until she eats something and keeps on doing it for every meal she does. i tried it for like a week and did some push ups and jogging and lost around 15 pounds, i was like is this magic?!
MattKrotzer Dec 1st 2011 2:54PM
I try to avoid gimmick diets.
The thing you mention is a variation of the more common "Drink more water" which WILL actually help you lose weight. The 40 minutes before eating thing just seems irrelevant and more of a mind game than anything that would actually impact your weight loss.
I've said this a few times on here before, but I thoroughly endorse Weight Watchers. It's not a diet, in the traditional sense. No "eat no carbs," "eat just red meat," "eat only carbs" hoopla. Eat what you want. But in moderation.
Being on the program for 9 months has been amazingly eye-opening, and I look at food so much differently now. I understand how to make healthier choices and have actually discovered a ton of new things that I would've never thought to even try before.
And even now, I'll use some of my "bonus" points to throw down on some of the less-healthy options, from time to time. Don't deny yourself the things you like. It'll only make you resent the process and not want to stick to it. Just go easy on it.
The best thing I ever bought was my food scale. Figuring out actual serving sizes is a godsend. If you don't scarf it down, a serving of potato chips (usually 1oz.) is actually more than enough to satisfy the average snack craving, and isn't obscenely high in points. (Chex Mix is an even better option, though I'm dying to know the nutrition info for it after cutting out the pretzels, bagel chips and bread twists, which I don't like.)
Welldead Dec 1st 2011 3:11PM
Makes more sense to me now. Thank you sooooo much :). for a guy who's been considered chubby, i want to change my personality as of how i look cause i want to gain more confidence and not be judge like i used to be judged in middle school and mid high-school. Thanks alot man :) i would really go into deep on what you said.
Tarfuin Dec 1st 2011 3:17PM
Good luck Matt.
That's almost exactly what my goal was a year or two ago. I weighed about 230 and wanted to get down to a weight where even if I had a "cheat weekend" I would still come out under 200.
I actually reached that pretty quickly and kept losing all the way down to 173. I'm around 180-185 right now as I decided to enjoy life's indulgences just a little bit. That's not ideal though. I'd like to be 175-180 instead of 180-185.
Well, I guess I'm going to the gym tonight.
Solzean Dec 1st 2011 3:24PM
Welldead, that depends if you are a girl or a boy. Also, drinking water to eat less is just a bandaid. The question comes down to what you are trying to do. Do you just want to be skinny and appear to have strength because of a 6 pack? Do you want to be able to lift a lot of weights and not worry as much about your look? Or you can do both. The key to understanding your best diet is what your goal is.
Your own weight really depends on your height and sex as I said. I personally am 205 pounds but I am a decently well built person. I could lose some fat and will most likely do it come next spring, but I am in shape which is what is most important to me.
The best solution is to lift weights in my opinion, no matter your sex. Working out works out great because you can eat more calories, you put on muscle, and its just plain fun. Its a great idea because it forces your body to repair itself and change its metabolism.
Cardio activities are good filler but using them as a means of losing weight alone is just a poor idea. While I really endorse lifting weights and think eating less and running is a bad idea, I will say they are better than nothing. If you lose weight in a manner like this you will simply become skin and bones. The goal is to actually change your life style.
When it comes to things such as weight watchers they work but they just aren't very efficient in my opinion. They tend to over dramatize eating pizza and other foods they declare to be terribly unhealthy. THis really is why i endorse lifting weights. You are able to still eat a lot of food and in fact you are encouraged to if you want to put enough work into it. The goal though is to make sure you have a friend who understands lifting weights.
zlliM Dec 1st 2011 3:30PM
welldead,
focus on your overall body composition rather than earth's gravitational pull on your body's mass (weight)... buy some cheap body fat calipers and measure yourself to find out where you are
15% body fat is a healthy % that all males can shoot for. you could go lower down to 12% where, statistically, you should be able to see abdominal definition in a relaxed state with normal lighting conditions (i.e.: not a myspace angle/lighting)
if you are already in the 12-15% bf range (legitimately 12-15% that is, use some calipers for real, or even better if you have access to be hydrostatic weighed) you could attempt to get to 8-11.9% bf, but single% bf is very difficult for most. also, put on dat dere muscle mass! everyone can benefit from more muscle mass; bigger faster stronger.
Welldead Dec 1st 2011 3:35PM
Well, im a boy firstly. and second, i may have a cousin who does weights every week. might ask him some questions about that. i used to lift weights when i was in high school. Thanks for the more info :)
Solzean Dec 1st 2011 3:56PM
Well, if you start a lifting routine you want to try to do it at least 2 times a week or if possible 3 times. Go for composite lifts and eat lots of protein. Lifting is a honestly a bit of a life style change but it makes you feel so much better and you adapt to the pain quick.
Welldead Dec 1st 2011 4:04PM
Lol, yeah. it hurts at the end when you are done but it is worth it.
Eveilany Dec 1st 2011 5:26PM
Just wanted to state that the 40mins between the water and the food is proven to help. The reason is it takes your body 30 mins to realise it's not hungry anylonger. So if you are waiting 40 you have given your body time to decided if it is still hungry. I had a doctor have me do this when I lost 40lbs.
Saikoujin Dec 1st 2011 2:27PM
I would not classify Jon's success as an achievement, but rightly, a feat of strength. :-)
Congratulations to you!
Steelheart Dec 1st 2011 2:22PM
Wow Jonathan, just wow. And you're so handsome now :) Congrats!!!
zlliM Dec 1st 2011 2:23PM
great weight loss success story.
i am glad to see that he corrected the mistake of starving himself at 1000cal/day... that is unhealthy and you'll lose a ton of muscle mass.
speaking of muscle mass; anyone who is trying to lose weight, 'bulking' (eating more than you burn) for a month or two, with the intent to gain muscle mass, (so just eat 500-1000cal more than you burn/day) right before you 'cut' (eating at a deficit) will help increase your metabolism. think of it as increasing your engine from a 250cc to a 1000cc... you'll require more gas(calories) and thus your base metabolic rate will increase.
also, i wouldn't cut weight at more than a 1500cal/day deficit or you will end up with a lot of left over skin. the best scenario to lose a lot of weight (100+ pounds) would be to cut ~30lbs over the period of 2 months, then stop try to 'clean bulk' (bulk eating very clean) for a month or so to try to gain some more muscle mass (2-5 pounds) and strength. after that quick 1 month bulk repeat your cutting phase for another 2 months to try to lose another ~30lbs.
TLDR:
you want to try to gain some muscle mass too, it will be easy for most of you as you will see "noob gains" extremely quick
source: my internet PHD... but seriously you can do your own research to double check what i've said
Arbolamante Dec 1st 2011 2:25PM
I read this on what is day 2 for me on my new office treadmill desk. I've been doing standing desks at home and work for about 8 months now, and have decided to take the next step (so to speak). There is a lot of research out now that puts concrete numbers on what we should all intuitively understand -- prolonged sitting shortens your life. If you are physically able to go to a stand-up desk or even a tread desk, I would recommend it.
Everclear Dec 1st 2011 2:34PM
I love these stories.
zlliM Dec 1st 2011 2:34PM
"Many people advise simply giving up hobbies such a gaming altogether when you're embarking upon a serious effort to lose a great deal of weight. How and why have you managed to keep WoW a part of your regular activities?"
video games are one of the better things you can do while training/dieting/etc... as long as you don't deter from your diet and still get your exercise/gym time in.
90% of getting your body to where you want it to be is done OUTSIDE of the gym; it's all about how well/correct you eat and sleep/rest.
spending 4-5 hours in the gym then going out and doing some cardio-esque hobby/activity will overtrain your muscles and burn you out quick, I.E.: january gym new-years-resolutionists.
all you really need is 45-60min in the gym, work out intense, bust your ass, then do a good 15 min of High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) after the gym. beyond that you will see the most results from being consistent with your diet, disciplined in your training/gym time, and disciplined in a regular sleeping pattern of >=8hours.
Pain of regret or the pain of discipline, you decide.
mordred Dec 1st 2011 2:53PM
This story is weightist.
Catsmeow Dec 1st 2011 3:09PM
I don't see how a story about a self-desired, positive (for him) outcome is "weightist". No one disparaged anyone's weight in this story. I think that most reasonable people would read this as a positive story for him, since he met a goal that he chose on his own.
I am kicking myself and hoping that you are trolling :(