Tips for great success in the Raid Finder

Of course, for newer players, using the Raid Finder can be intimidating, especially if you've never spent any time in PUG raids before now. Grouping up at random with 24 other players is intimidating. You can't just ignore that; jumping into a raid group that has expectations and demands about you can be a scary thing.
With that in mind, here's a handful of tips to make sure your Raid Finder experience goes as smoothly as possible.
Get Deadly Boss Mods and voice chat. Not every Raid Finder group will use the same addons and tools, of course, but you can expect most groups will want you to have Deadly Boss Mods. Yes, there are alternatives. However, Deadly Boss Mods still seems the most popular go-to. When a raid leader asks you to get a different mod, you might as well. But have DBM installed before you hit the Raid Finder button.
Voice chat is a little more difficult, since there's a much wider array of available voice chat clients. Still, you should have Ventrilo and Mumble already installed. I prefer Mumble, personally, but I encounter Ventrilo among PUGs much more frequently.
While nothing in Blizzard's official tools demands you have these tools, the random groups you encounter will expect everyone to be DBM and voice chat ready.
Have food and flasks. Remember all those annoying mods that do things like whisper "Joe-Bob ain't drunk his flask"? Well, they're back -- and probably with good reason. While Raid Finder difficulty is easier than normal raiding, you still want every little numerical advantage you can get.
More than a few Raid Finder groups will have incredibly generous folks who provide cauldrons and food for everyone. But don't bank on that happening. Try to have your appropriate buff food and flask ready to go.
Be polite and patient. Being polite and patient with your group probably sounds like silly advice, but what blew me away about Raid Finder so far is that groups are pretty cool. I've found the stress level to be much lower than even 5-man dungeons. I couldn't tell you why that's the case, but I haven't encountered anyone who's really irked me so far.
So with that fresh, exciting opportunity out there, do your best to be polite and patient. Remember that this is new content, that raid groups are learning, and everyone's (presumably) doing their best. If you find yourself getting frustrated, grab a cup of coffee and dial it back a notch.
Watch videos before you queue. The bosses in Dragon Soul via the Raid Finder aren't exactly difficult. I blew through my first Dragon Soul in less than two hours. That being said, it helps if you are forearmed with a basic knowledge of the fights.
Make sure you check out our guide to Dragon Soul bosses in 5 seconds or less. That'll give you a basic idea of what the heck's going on. Really, though, you should still survey some video guides to get the in-depth why and wherefore of each fight.
Yes, the fights are perfectly explainable by a competent raid leader -- but that really shouldn't be necessary. Hit up that 5 seconds post. It'll cover the vast majority of what you need to know.
Be prepared to chill out. The harshest part of Raid Finder is that you end up with 25 opportunities for someone to disconnect, go away from keyboard, or otherwise wander off into unknown territory. This is a natural consequence of getting a large group of humans together.
If someone leaves the raid, you'll have to wait for a replacement. I've generally had to wait longer for healers than anyone else, but you definitely have to wait. Combine that with all the usual raid breaks, and you could find yourself killing some time.
Play a movie in the background. Bring a book. Make sure you can occupy a few odd moments without losing your mind. If you're going to freak out over five idle minutes, then Raid Finder is not the place for you. Remember how I said it took less than two hours to all four current bosses? Probably 35% or more of that was spent waiting for replacements. It's going to happen, so prepare for it ahead of time.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Necromann Dec 1st 2011 9:06AM
I will be busy until Saterday or Sunday, when I can finally try this put.
Emophia Dec 1st 2011 9:09AM
tbh you don't need tips or tricks for Raid finder, it is literally a joke.
I went through on my rogue, noone said, explained or organized anything, and we blew through all 4 bosses in very little time with 0 wipes.
Not that I'm complaining.
Krytture Dec 1st 2011 9:37AM
All praise the wow insider comment system!
teejmorrison Dec 1st 2011 10:04AM
I agree, the RF i did last night was super easy. Didn't read up on any bosses and still no wipes. Got my shoulder token too!!
godking Dec 1st 2011 10:08AM
I doubt that's true.
Devin Dec 1st 2011 10:27AM
@ Godking
Why? Have you tried RF yet? I ran it on Tues night and we only wiped once and it was because we pulled two trash mobs; no boss wipes. I would suggest trying it out ASAP and ignore all the Asshats in raid chat, it's not worth the stress.
Bellajtok Dec 1st 2011 10:43AM
As has been mentioned below, that's not going to stand. Right now, everyone in the raid finder is raiders- the earlier you tried the raid finder, the easier it probably was, because you were working with a higher number of people who already met the ilvl requirement.
Bynde Dec 1st 2011 11:39AM
I don't think it's "literally" a joke. But, I understand what you are trying to say.
I hate the misuse/overuse of "literal".
jfofla Dec 1st 2011 2:09PM
When a WOW Player says "It is a Joke" he is really stroking his EPEEN
Please don't subject us to that.
The truth is the difficulty is comparable to a Normal Boss you have on Farm.
Magicslime Dec 1st 2011 4:34PM
@Bellajtok
Not everyone in raid finder (on tuesday) were raiders. The min ilvl is able to be met by valor gear and stuff, without setting foot in a cataclysm raid. Also, I saw a couple of people wearing full relentless....yeah.
Kram Dec 1st 2011 9:25AM
One thing I haven't seen discussed much is the 372 ilvl requirement and how that is affecting group quality for raid finder THIS WEEK ONLY. Most people with 372+ ilvls ready to use raid finder, and with the willingness to spend that time on Tuesday and Wednesday, are raiders with significant FL experience.
As the weekend approaches and more casuals are able to boost their ilvl with the new roic gear, I fully expect the 'difficulty' in groups that a lot of people expected to become more prevalent.
gewalt Dec 1st 2011 10:02AM
there will be even more high geared people there to carry them, its not a problem
Peebers Dec 1st 2011 10:06AM
woof! I bet you're right dude.
Gniver Dec 1st 2011 11:22AM
Kram, I think you are right.
However, by setting the I-level bar high, Blizzard ensures that relatively few newbies stumble into the raid finder. Blizzard also clearly signal that this is not a "get non-raiders to see the content & have something to do" feature. This is a "raid difficulty learning curve & make PUGs easier to find" feature.
Overall, I think Blizzard did the right thing here.
Kram Dec 1st 2011 1:36PM
@gniver completely agree, but since the new heroics drop 378 gear and only require a 353 ilvl to get into (read: no raid experience required at all), there is going to be a flood of casuals with NO prior raid experience who aren't going to be afraid of RF, and will drive the quality of raids down as people get enough gear to get a leg up on normals and then don't go back. (see ZA/ZG progression from 4.2)
Enjoy the RF now while it's still good!
boil.san Dec 1st 2011 1:37PM
I ground out about 8 of the new 5-mans, got my iLevel up to spec (well, i370 equipped; i372 in bags, I had a pair of Season 10 PvP leggings in a bag, I guess) and jumped into the LFR…
Yeah, I died about half a dozen times, but I did not know any fights, nor did I want to… I wanted to see the raids FRESH, get that brand new feel from them…
Next time, I will study before, make sure my add-ons are up-to-date, and try not to die as much.
As for RNG luck, nada… Must have worn it out with the six items I snagged in the new 5-mans…!
Only thing left now is to do a BH and hope for some drops, grind out some dailies to replace all the gold I spent in the last 14 hours (food/flasks/void storage fees/xmogging fees/reforging fees/gems/enchants/etc.) and play around in the new Darkmoon Faire when it 'comes to town'. If I do grind some more of the new 5-mans for more fresh gear, it will be for gold & gear only, as I am already VP capped for the week…!
Kram Dec 1st 2011 1:51PM
There is no way to make my point more clearly than just to quote all of boil.sans post.
Which I won't do. When thousands of him hit the RF tool on Saturday... Yeowch.
Pyromelter Dec 1st 2011 3:09PM
Disagree disagree disagree.
The only way RF will fail is if there is massive tank fail. How many complete casuals that have never ever raided are out there? If the stated difficulty level of "Baradin Hold" is the standard for the raid, I really can't see a lot of failures going on out there. And almost everyone at max level has at least some raid experience, I'd have to gather.
The only way I see RF raids failing is with massive tank failures (since that's about the only thing that I've ever seen wipe VOA/BH type bosses). As long as you have at least a semi-decent tanking crew, it shouldn't be a problem. I'd be willing to bet there will likely be someone in every RF raid that will be carrying the dps and healing.
I could also bring up a counter-point to which you state it's only raiders doing raid finder, which is that real guilds with real raiders would be running through the normal (non raid finder), and that they would be more likely to check out the raid finder raids on the weekend.
Gniver Dec 1st 2011 4:00PM
@ Pyromelter
To the best of my knowledge the players who do not raid vastly outnumber the players that do. Only Blizzard has the true demographics of course, and they aren’t telling… but you will note that they set the item level as high as they possibly could.
Kram Dec 1st 2011 4:21PM
@pyro I'll see your point and raise you a question. What about these encounters makes them a tank-check? On RF difficulty, the fights aren't tanking or healing intensive, they are an exercise in getting 25ish strangers to not be idiots.
If you haven't tried the last two fights on the PTR, I urge you to wait til you see those. They require a level of team coordination that the first 4 miss. To be honest I saw more incompetent folk on the PTR than I've seen on live so far, and all I'm saying is its only a matter of time until they too can join RF.
What does anyone think about RAISING the min ilvl to 379/380 in a month or so? Or higher? To keep people who will have 384 (RF) or 397 (VP gear) in the queue but leaving out those who won't put in that time?