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12-04-2011 @ 2:29PM
On a site that marks everything with *spoiler* alert, the Queue really dropped the ball. I was excited for the amazing cut scene after defeating Deathwing, but I guess it doesn't matter. Just like that stupid fountain in Dalaran gave me no choice with the Lich King end scene.
12-04-2011 @ 2:35PM
How do you know it's 'amazing' if you haven't seen it...?
12-04-2011 @ 2:49PM
Just by coming to this site, you should be prepared to maybe see something/read something you might not want to. It is after all an INFORMATION site. I would say they do a pretty good job of shielding readers. So you see a cutscene before you actually down a boss. Most of the cutscenes I have seen are actually better the second time around, just for the fact that you are taking it all in and not putting any expectations on it. As far as the fountain goes, there were plenty of people talking about it before on here and in game. If you happened to miss the fact that there was a cutscene on it then you might be a little oblivious to your surroundings.
12-04-2011 @ 2:58PM
Assuming you're still holding out on seeing it, I can assure you that it's nothing amazing. I held out for a day or so after they found it and when I finally cracked and watched it I felt really dumb for having been so hyped about something so underwhelming. It had nothing on the Wrath one.
12-04-2011 @ 3:00PM
@zweitblom: Of course he's seen it. Screaming about spoilers is a favorite internet troll tactic. Very few complaints about spoilers come from anyone who actually cares about spoilers, they mostly come from people who just like to troll with pretend outrage.
12-04-2011 @ 3:23PM
Wait, what? The fountain that gave you no choice? Did it grab you, restrain you in your chair, force you to click on the fountain, keep you from hitting the escape key to end the cinematic, and make you watch the ending wrath cinematic?Blizzard clearly employs better programmers than I gave them credit for.
12-04-2011 @ 3:31PM
I genuinely haven't seen it and I'm not happy D:.
12-04-2011 @ 3:35PM
I ruined it for myself in wrath and it took away from the epicness of killing the lich king, this time around I wanted to keep my self from spoiling anything. All you guys can say what you want about spoilers from people in game etc. But this is the one place I genuinely thought that wasn't going to happen. I don't have trade channel turned on and my guild doesn't talk about spoilers, so I really thought I would be fine this time :/.
12-04-2011 @ 4:37PM
@ Artificial Are you kidding me? So if you care about lore and want to experience it firsthand, you're a troll? So when WoWInsider has spoiler tags in almost every article that, well, spoils what happens at the end of 4.3, they're pandering to the trolls? Guess what: I'm a lore junkie, I just hit 85, and I plan on gearing up for LFR so I can do raids for the first time ever and experience lore that's new to me. I haven't seen any cinematics, and when I see spoiler tags that WoWInsider so kindly puts in their articles, I avoid those articles. To have something spoiled for me in a Queue, when the entire site has had a no-spoiler policy in their articles, sucks.So no, you're 100% incorrect and kind of a jerk for thinking people who dislike spoilers are trolls.
12-04-2011 @ 4:51PM
@Smartaz Except nothing was spoiled! All you now know is that something happens. A spoiler would be if I told you that Kalecgos sacrificed himself to hold Deathwing still so that Thrall can get a clear shot at him with the Dragon Soul. There you go. Have fun with the rest of Cataclysm!
12-04-2011 @ 5:08PM
Except something WAS spoiled: you know something happens to Kalecgos that makes it so he doesn't have the opportunity to do something of note. I didn't know that going in to 4.3, I didn't know what was going to happen to Kalecgos, didn't even know if he was going to play a huge role or an almost nonexistent one, but now I know that something, probably bad, is going to happen to him.Saying "Nor will he apparently have the opportunity to!" added nothing to the answer to the question, and since before now WoWInsider was against spoilers, it just seems weird that they'd backtrack on that stance to add almost no information to an answer.
12-04-2011 @ 5:29PM
Except it's NOT. You don't know WHAT happens. For all you know Millhouse Manastorm could've come and polymorphed him into a sheep, or that he's the last aspect remaining, or maybe the Aspects retreated to their separate holes scattered across Azeroth never to be seen again. You don't know if this information happens at the end of Dragon Soul raid, a quest chain, or upon completing the legendary daggers. It's not a spoiler if you don't know what happens.
12-04-2011 @ 5:55PM
You don't even know if it's something good or bad that happens. Maybe the aspects decided to imbue their powers into Thrall, making him the Aspect of Azeroth. Maybe Malygos' death was greatly exaggerated and he makes a reappearance. Maybe Kalecgos decides he doesn't want to be an aspect and another blue steps up. This sure is a lot of what ifs for a comment that is a spoiler. All you know is something happens, and honestly, you should have come into 4.3 thinking something is going to happen since the aspects have been fighting Deathwing the whole expansion.
12-04-2011 @ 8:03PM
This is a good point - I actually avoided clicking the KYL above this *because* of the spoiler alert.Ball very much dropped.
12-05-2011 @ 3:54AM
@Zodiac - He knows Kalecgos isn't going to be functioning normally as the aspect of blue fairy dust (or whatever it is) anymore. The fact that he doesn't know exactly how or why is irrelevant. It's still a plot detail he would otherwise remain ignorant of. Simple as that.It's not as big a deal as this trainwreck of a comment system is making out, but it's still fairly dumb to have spoiler warnings everywhere and then post that above the cut in a queue. Even if you don't think the actual 'spoiler' is a big deal, it's a bizarre and inconsistent decision from the pov of editorial policy. Adding 'womp womp' doesn't help either - there's a word for that.Sure, it's hard to decide exactly when things should and shouldn't be spoiled, but that's not actually a good excuse in this case. Within a day or two a huge section of the playerbase is going to have the chance to see the second half of Dragon Soul for themselves in Raid Finder. Why on Earth would you risk spoiling them *now*? If you have to do it, do it next week when you actually can assume a huge number of players will have seen it for themselves...
12-05-2011 @ 4:04AM
How was something not spoiled? Are you saying that me knowing something happens to Kalecgos is me knowing less information than had I not known anything about Kalecgos? I don't know WHAT happens, but now I know SOMETHING happens that impedes Kalecgos' ability to do something important of note. I don't have to know the full specifics of what happens to him for this to be a spoiler. It doesn't matter where it happens because it happens in 4.3 in something I haven't experienced yet, hence it's a spoiler. The fact that I now have what if's is exactly the problem: now there are potential story points going through my mind about what exactly could have made Kalecgos lose the opportunity to do something. By that logic, knowing Dumbledore dies at the end of the 6th book isn't a spoiler because I don't know who did it, how it happens, where it happens, if it's good or bad. All I know is something happens, in this case, that Dumbledore dies. So yes, it IS a spoiler if I don't know what happens. I don't really know why I would get downvoted. Once again, heading into 4.3 I don't know to what extent Kalecgos is involved or if anything's even going to happen to him. Now I know he's involved to some extent and something happens so that he can no longer do something of note. Why is me saying that this is a spoiler worthy of a downvote? Why is me pointing out that this is contradictory to WoWInsider's stance on policies, when it is? In today's Know Your Lore, there's a spoiler warning. In other articles about 4.3's cinematics, there's a spoiler warning. Why is a spoiler so casually mentioned here?
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