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12-05-2011 @ 11:55AM
I've been going through a bit of this in my guild. I have a pair of IRL friends who are constantly guild hopping to find a raiding guild. Before seeing them in action, I was willing to entertain the possibility that the raiding guilds on our RP, non-progression med pop server were the reason they couldn't find a home. I made the mistake of inviting them into my large social guild. /shudderAnyone who has been in 5+ guilds should be thought of as someone who has 5+ marriages. Yes, it's theoretically possible that all that churn wasn't their fault, but as the saying goes, "The only consistent thing about all your dysfunctional relationships is you." People who are constantly looking for someone who will put up with them tend to be difficult to put up with.
12-05-2011 @ 12:21PM
:chuckle: "Anyone who has been in 5+ guilds should be thought of as someone who has 5+ marriages." Another way of putting this is, would you refuse to work with them because they had have half-a-dozen other jobs in their life or 500 other coworkers? Making the association of guilds and marriage is doing yourself a disservice. Guilds are volunteer organizations whether for social purposes or for goal-related purposes (pvp, raiding, etc). People come and go all the time. If someone is a good fit for you at the time, then great. If not, then that's ok. When you start inflating the importance of being in the guild then you are setting the grounds for future drama when some view the guild as a serious commitment and most will view it as a casual date.
12-05-2011 @ 12:30PM
@AmyI've played since the game's launch and I've definitely been in more than 5 guilds-guilds rarely seem to last longer than a year, many don't make it longer than six months, and sometimes you cannot help it when guild leadership implodes or people get burnt out and leave, etc. I've left lots of guilds because the leadership was poor. Only in two cases did I leave due to personal issues, and in both of those cases, I was an officer and had a major disagreement with the way GMs were handling things. Every other time, it was because leadership quit, or seemed corrupted after awhile, or because raiders stopped raiding and I wanted to raid, etc. It had little to do with me on any kind of personal level at all, just a "I want to raid, and the guild isn't really raiding anymore, and all the people I like quit out of boredom or to play another MMO that just came out."My long-winded point is, there are plenty of people who have legitimate reasons to cycle guilds, and it should not automatically be a factor in being wary of a player. Things happen, people move on, guilds dissolve or explode, and frequently, this has very little to do with the player in question.
12-05-2011 @ 12:51PM
@Piper. WoW has been around for seven years. As a manager, I would be very leery of hiring someone who had 5+ jobs on the resume since November 2004. Yes, there can be good reasons for that much bouncing around, but it's also possible that they are a prima donna who can't get along with other people or a slacker who does as little as possible until someone finally fires their lazy rear or their guild/store goes out of business.I'll admit I have not had much guild experience myself, particularly in how they can grow and die within a year. The guilds I've either been in or applied to be in were multi-year, well-run and long established guilds, so it may not be fair to judge other guilds by those standards. I will stand by my sentiment that if someone is repeatedly joining a guild, becoming a valuable member of the raiding team, and then leaving because "the guild leader's a moron!" or "they don't listen to me!", the problem is more likely to be the person and not all the guilds on a server ...
12-05-2011 @ 1:02PM
The only thing that I would think about someone who has been in a lot of guilds is that they probably don't take the time to really think about the guild they are getting themselves into. That's not a crime, many people join guilds to see if they are a good fit only to leave a few days/weeks later. That is more like going on a couple of dates then a marriage if you want to make an analogy.
12-05-2011 @ 8:16PM
"I will stand by my sentiment that if someone is repeatedly joining a guild, becoming a valuable member of the raiding team, and then leaving because "the guild leader's a moron!" or "they don't listen to me!", the problem is more likely to be the person and not all the guilds on a server ..."That's true, though a bit different than the initial generalized "if someone has been in more than 5 guilds..." comment, when there are plenty of valid reasons a person might choose to leave a guild. Shoot, the first piece of advice frequently offered to anyone with a serious enough problem in their guild is, "find a new guild".This really is a thing that should be done on a case-by-case basis.
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