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12-06-2011 @ 8:06AM
The Raid Finder will not be very sustainable as a patch moves on. But whenever a new patch drops and introduces a new raid, this will be an invaluable tool for many guilds / career puggers.
12-06-2011 @ 10:28AM
I agree, as someone who generally only pugs his raids, I think there is a solid base of players in a similar situation that will keep it going. That said, I really think Blizzard did poorly only including Dragon Soul in the LFR tool. I've heard a lot of groaning about the lack of support for all the previous content.It's a shame they couldn't have including all the raids up to this point as well.The thing to remember is there are millions of live players, and this will give them a chance to raid even if the quality is a little lower than finding a group for normals/heroics. PTR doesn't have the numbers to give an accurate, long term view of it's sustainability.
12-06-2011 @ 11:01AM
I can understand why they didn't include older content (it would be a lot of time to scale the encounters and drops), but it would have been awfully nice if they simply included Firelands and earlier raids as is to at least facilitate people running the content if they want to.I am looking forward to LFR being continued through the coming patches/expansions. It's a great option for raiders with missing tier pieces, and non-raiders looking for a taste!
12-06-2011 @ 11:54AM
It depends what you mean by sustainable. Will the queues be as fast as they are right now? Unlikely. But as a dps, going from an instant queue to a 10 minute queue is not going to stress me out -- I'm already used to dungeon queues that can run 30 minutes (longer at the beginning of Cataclysm).The normal life cycle of a raid is that at first people run it primarily on their mains. Then, as they get geared up and get used to content, alt runs and pugs start appearing. If anything, raids become more accessible and are run more often later on in the cycle. I don't see why this couldn't replicate itself on raid finder; the content is easy enough and fast enough that it will be pretty inviting for people to use it for alts even after their mains are geared.Plus, it will continue to attract those people who can't run regular raids. So overall, I suppose I disagree with your conclusion. I think the RF will be very sustainable.
12-06-2011 @ 12:01PM
I would disagree. Sure, it will likely slow down a little as the tier progresses, but you get Valor Points for completion, 500 VP in raid finder means 3 fewer heroics and a shot at better gear.As long as people are still queuing up for heroics (which last I checked was the entire tier) they'll be queuing up for raid finder as well, even if only once a week per weing.
12-06-2011 @ 2:24PM
I do agree that RF will probably dry up after everybody's been through it 10-100x, but then again people were still running ZG/ZA through the end of 4.2 even though we were all sick of it since that was really the only thing to do. (As a strange side note: one wing of the RF will probably turn out to take less time than a single clear through ZG/ZA). However, I'm skeptical that Blizz would have needed to do ANY work to bring this function to older, non-cata raids. You really don't need to tune down raids players are currently outgeared for, hell, you don't even need a full raid! There's no reason Blizz couldn't put 10 players in Black Temple, Tempest Keep, or even ICC without touching the instance itself.
12-06-2011 @ 3:24PM
This is pretty much what happens to DF as a patch wears on, so you would expect the same for RF. Eventually, you run out of valor options and/or the raiders start capping through regular raid content, so they stop running DF and the pool of available players becomes less geared/experienced overall. It's just natural progression, hardly doom and gloom.
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